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update by davis22
Aug 09, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Just an update from me, my Hyundai dealership had my car for the 4th time from Monday to Friday and unfortunately, the problem still persists. I suppose they will want me to bring it back this Monday making it the fifth time they've tried to fix the seat/airbag issue. Such a bummer.
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Re: update [davis22] by m6user
Aug 09, 2008 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: davis22 (Aug 09, 2008 2:52 pm)

In a lot of states when a safety related item on a car can't be fixed after 3 times or so it qualifies as a lemon law car. You may be able to use this. I think the car can only be so old though but they probably vary a lot by state. Anyway, it might be something to check out.
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Re: Problem not fixed? [davis22] by crdrivemecrz
Sep 09, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: davis22 (Jul 28, 2008 6:59 pm)

I bought a used 2008 Sonata. 10 days later I brought it to the dealer because of the passenger air bag light. The cushion was sent to California and I got the car back 5 days later. The passenger air bag light eventually goes off when someone is sitting in it, but if I sit in it (116 lbs) or my teenage daughter sits in it, the light comes on and goes off. We pretty much have to bounce in the seat to make the light go off !!!! Besides that this car has an awful odor to it. When I first bought it, it smelled like a bottle of window cleaner. After that odor went away, it had a strange chemical odor - it's been described as paint, superglue, sweat, cigarettes - awful !!! I called the dealer tonight. If I don't get a response, my plan is to call the manager, call the dealership owner, contact Hyundai Customer Relations, contact the Better Business Bureau, and the Federal Traffic Administration.
Did your seat problem get resolved ??
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Technical Service Bulletin 05-90-009 by Bad08Sonata
Dec 11, 2008 (11:34 pm)
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ALL HYUNDAI OWNERS WITH SIDE IMPACT AIR BAGS.
 
Did anyone inform you prior to your purchase that you could not install any accessory seat covers in your new car?
 
Well this TSB has been out since August, 2005.
 
Hyundai vehicles are equipped with side impact air bags INSTALLED IN BOTH THE DRIVER SIDE AND PASSENGER SIDE FRONT SEATS. Any modification(s) of the seats may prevent proper operation of the side impact air bags when they are intended to deploy in a collision and can result IN SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH. To ensure proper operation of the side impact air bags:
 
1 Do not install any accessory seat covers.
 
2 Do not reupholster the seat backs with after-market upholstery (such as a leather kit).
 
3 Do not repair damaged upholstery without using Hyundai Genuine Parts.
 
THE TAG on the side of the seat is where the air bag will deployed from, it is not there just to let you know you have "Side Impact Air Bags"
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Re: Technical Service Bulletin 05-90-009 [Bad08Sonata] by fushigi
Dec 12, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: Bad08Sonata (Dec 11, 2008 11:34 pm)

This is hardly specific to Hyundai. My Mitsubishi has a similar warning and I've seen warnings on other vehicles as well. Side Impact Airbags deploy by literally bursting through the stitching on the side of the seat. The stitching is strong enough to survive seat usage so the airbag must use sufficient force to rip through it in a small fraction of a second. Anything like a seat cover that might impede the rapid deployment of the airbag would not only reduce passenger safety, it could even cause harm should the airbag be redirected (via the seat cover's design) towards a passenger.
 
That said, there are some seat covers that are designed to be compatible with side air bags. Or, as an alternate, you can have custom upholstery created or simply replace the seating surfaces without touching the panels where the airbags deploy.
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Re: Technical Service Bulletin 05-90-009 [fushigi] by Bad08Sonata
Dec 12, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: fushigi (Dec 12, 2008 5:08 am)

I am in complete agreement with you.
 
My Point, IS A WARNING!
 
We purchased a new 08 Sonata, while looking my wife stated a concern about the light color seats and then said it would be o.k. we would just get a good set of seat covers to protect them. She even asked the salesperson about purchasing seat covers for the car (We know now, they are not compatible with Side Air Bag Systems). He did not say anything about not being able to use seat-cover because of the side air bags. I don't think he truly understood the system, nor did we when we bought the car (Side Air bags deploy from the seats, Side curtains deploy from somewhere around the roof for each side). He only talked about how this was the safes car for the money and how the side curtain air bags deploy from the side of the roof to protect you. (All of this was standard)
 
Hyundai has a booklet all about the Airbag Safety WARNINGS...comes with the car when you purchase it! NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THIS IS IN THE MANUAL, ONLY STATED IN THE TSB AND THE TSB IS VERY HARD TO FIND.
 
IF ANYONE ELSE HAS FOUND THIS INFORMATION FOR THE 08 SONATA ELSEWHERE PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
 
Additionally, you know those aftermarket seat-warmers & massager, this may also impede the Side Air Bags located on the side of each front seat, within each front seat. Or for that matter, how about someone hanging their coat over the seat or the side of the seat.
 
I think people need to be made aware of this.
 
Your sugestions are well taken...Not sure if Hyundai would approve of these special seatcovers in writing.
 
Did you buy your car new?
 
Does you Mitsubishi identify this in your Airbag Safety Warning manual or is it attached somewher on your car?
 
Thanks for your post and suggestions.
 
 
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Re: Technical Service Bulletin 05-90-009 [Bad08Sonata] by Bad08Sonata
Dec 12, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: Bad08Sonata (Dec 12, 2008 9:00 am)

I correct myself.
 
Nothing about this is in the NP100-07004 Hyundai Airbag Safety Warning manual.
 
I found even more warning for my 08 in its Owner's manual on pg 47
 
Nothing about the Side Impact Airbags are located inside the seat.
 
Additionally, Warnings are:
 
4 Do not install any accessory on the side near the side impact airbag.
 
5 Do not place any objects over the air bag or between the airbag and yourself.
 
6 Do not place any objects (an umbrella, bag, etc.) between the front door and the front seat. Such objects may become dangerous projectiles and cause injury of the supplemental side airbag inflates.
 
7 To prevent unexpected deployment of the side impact airbag that may result in personal injury, avoid impact to the side impact sensor when the ignition key is on.
 
WHERE IS THE STATEMENT THE SIDE IMPACT AIRBAGS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE UPPER PORTION OF THE SEATS, ON THE SIDE OF THE SEAT THAT FACES EACH FRONT DOOR?
 
I wonder what positive thing Backy would have to say about this?
 
Maybe I needed to do a lot more research before I purchased my new 08 Sonata last year. The one that is currently parked because I feel it is unsafe to drive (Not because of this issue, but because of many others).
 
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Re: Technical Service Bulletin 05-90-009 [Bad08Sonata] by backy
Dec 12, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: Bad08Sonata (Dec 12, 2008 10:55 am)

I wonder what positive thing Backy would have to say about this?
 
I would only ask, of someone who seems to have no problem doing a lot of research to find the answer to a question, I wonder why they wouldn't have known that the Sonata, and indeed almost every modern car, has side air bags that come out of the outboard sides of the front seat backs? And that there are tags on the seats to remind owners (and drivers) of that fact? Also, in the brochure for the 2006-8 Sonata (not sure about the 2009), there is a full-page photo that shows the interior of the car with the airbags deployed. The photo clearly shows the side airbag coming out of the front seatbacks. On the opposite page is a description of the airbags which notes "front seat mounted side airbags." So these brochures can be pretty useful during the car-buying process. And also they are kind of fun to look at (at least I think so) as you make the car-buying decision. A good thing to pick up on your first visit to the dealer to take a look at a car you are considering.
 
Also, there is LOTS of information on the Web (including right here in Town Hall) regarding the fact that cars with side airbags should not be fitted with 3rd party seat covers that obstruct the airbags. So someone who is good at doing research on the Web, as you seem to be, should be able to easily find out about the problem of seat covers with side airbags.
 
The other thing I'd add is that in my years of car-buying experience, I have never taken at face value ANYTHING a car salesperson has told me, especially if it is regarding something important such as safety.
 
And, one of the first things I do when I buy a new car is read the owner's manual from cover to cover, and look over any other booklets that came with the car.
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Re: Technical Service Bulletin 05-90-009 [backy] by Bad08Sonata
Dec 12, 2008 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 12, 2008 2:17 pm)

I expected nothing less from you, thanks for putting me in my place.
 
I wish I had only saw all of todays remarks about the 2008 in earily September of 2007 before I bought it.
 
I found these forums after I started having problems. I can assure you I will do better research on my next purchase.
 
Our family does not replace cars year after year, so we need reliable ones that will last for 5 years or 60,000. For me, Hyundai has not been a good choice (wife's car), my old 92 Mazda Najvo has stood the test of time (new in 93, 130,000 and is my everyday driver.
 
Looking at your posts, you are dedicated to Hyundia Motor of America.
 
Are you a dealer, Platinum Service Technician or HMA representative?
 
Or are one of the very lucky few who has not had any problems with any of their Hyundai purchases or the Hyundais they get to drive?
 
 

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