Last post on Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM
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Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V, Mitsubishi Outlander
#85 of 121 Re: getting a new car: RAV, CRV or Oulander? [sataei]
May 01, 2009 (6:29 pm)
sataei, I drove a LS at a dealership in Quebec a few days ago. The ride was smooth, no strange sound although I forced it a bit. The engine responded quick enough and the transmission reacted remarkably smooth. Try another one.
I preferred the Outlander for its extended warranty and its equipment. It has a few nice bling-blings, too. How reliable, not sure yet...
For us as a family it's the best bang for the buck. Compare them thoroughly and choose whichever model suits you and your family.
#86 of 121 Re: getting a new car: RAV, CRV or Oulander? [benga]
May 03, 2009 (12:49 pm)
Finally, I picked up my XLS last week and so happy with it. it took about 3 weeks dealer find one here in Toronto, it seems there are not enough XLS model left specially for certain colors like grey and black but he found a black one and it is really nice truck.
The engine is very powerful and it is not like the one I tested before.
Anyways, I am driving it now and so happy with my pick, oh and did I mentioned the sound system? It is insane!! I have not seen anything like this before it is better than my home theatre at home, the features are great, it has a great space for the passengers in the back and very comfortable, so glad to pick this over RAV4, RAV4 looks like a toy compare to this.
So I got a better car, better features, better look, better Warranty and much better finance option than RAV4.
Thanks guys for all the input, it did really helped me for this pick.
#87 of 121 Re: getting a new car: RAV, CRV or Oulander? [sataei]
May 03, 2009 (2:33 pm)
I have a 07 xls with 17k on it and I love it , my 2nd Mitshi . Enjoy it !!!
#88 of 121 Re: getting a new car: RAV, CRV or Oulander? [sataei]
May 03, 2009 (3:55 pm)
Glad you like it, I've had my '07 for two years this month, no problems, great car, still love it!
#90 of 121 4 cyl RAV4 vs 4 cyl Outlander?
Jul 19, 2009 (7:51 pm)
My wife and I are looking for something a bit bigger than our current Mazda 3, now that we have an addition to the family. I'm trying to decide between the base 4 cylinder RAV 4 and a base 4 cyl Mitsu Outlander, probably 2WD for both. I'm in Canada, and pricing on the base models is relatively close, but the Mitsubishi has better financing options, warranty, etc. (we also considered a Mazda 5 but it felt a bit sluggish compared to the test drive of the 4 cyl RAV 4, and no stability control was the deal breaker--otherwise great car)
We'll be testing the Outlander later this week. I already know from the test drive of the RAV that the base 4 cylinder will be just fine for our needs. I'm unsure about the Mitsu though. Most of the reviews out there comparing the RAV and Outlander are all about the V6 models. Here's what I've gleaned so far... I don't care about the 3rd row seating, which isn't an option on the base of either 4 cyl model anyway.
base RAV 4 (4 cyl)
+ relatively powerful for a 4 cyl engine (179hp)
+ great fuel economy for a compact SUV
+ 2nd row seats fold flat
+ lots of Toyota dealers in our city, and the RAV is built here in Canada (service concerns?)
+ assumed Toyota high resale value
+ seemed relatively quiet during test drive
- rear gate swings to the curb is a big turnoff
- no other frills but that's base Toyota for you
- financing options not nearly as good as Mitsu
base Outlander (4 cyl)
+ better pricing / financing options
+ very slick rear liftgate--impressive two piece clamshell design
+ heated seats standard, even on base (not offered on base RAV)
+ better warranty
+ road side assistance
+ includes tonneau cover and rear privacy glass (not offered on base RAV)
- engine not quite as powerful or fuel-efficient as the RAV's 4-cyl
- far fewer Mitsu dealers in area...wonder about future of Mitsu in general
- resale value compared to Toyota?
- concerns about noise and ability of the 4-cyl's CVT?
Thoughts? I'll have a better idea once I actually test drive the Outlander, of course. There must be others out there that were just looking at the 4 cyl base models of these two.
#91 of 121 Re: 4 cyl RAV4 vs 4 cyl Outlander? [sir_timbit]
Jul 20, 2009 (4:42 am)
Have you considered a Mazda Tribute or a Ford Escape? They both seem to have the features you are looking for. We have a 2009 Ford Escape and we have been very pleased. Tribute and Escape are basically the same vehicle.
#92 of 121 Re: 4 cyl RAV4 vs 4 cyl Outlander? [sir_timbit]
Jul 20, 2009 (5:21 am)
If you talk base models, you get anti-theft system and tire pressure monitoring in the Outlander, you don't have that in the base RAV-4. The Outlander has a bigger tank, and a smaller turning circle.
But if all things equals, even just the warranty will seal the deal for the Outlander. If you consider the pros and cons, the Outlander is more car for your money than the RAV-4.
I have heard of talks that Mitsubishi will close shop and leave the North American market, I have heard of such talks since ages ago. But look at the US now, it was GM and Chrysler filing for bankruptcy, not Mitsubishi. This is their company press release: http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/company/commitment.do
#93 of 121 Re: 4 cyl RAV4 vs 4 cyl Outlander? [sir_timbit]
Jul 21, 2009 (4:38 pm)
The Outlander's 2nd row folds flat as well.
Also, if you will keep the vehicle for several years, you might find the difference in resale to not be that significant. Or it might even work against you. When I bought my '99 Galant, a comparable Camry was running around $3K more. After 10 years, using KBB the Camry is worth $2K more than my Galant (similar equipment, mileage, zip code). So that higher Toyota resale actually would have cost me $1000.
Regarding noise, I agree the Outlander's interior noise is more than I would prefer. Still, as you're in Canada, the heated seats might be worth it as a tradeoff for higher noise.
Other considerations: Do both engines use timing chains (good for life of the engine) or belts (need to be replaced every 60K miles or so)? Are there other maintenance considerations that would make one more expensive than the other? Is one drastically more expensive to insure?
Have fun with your test drive and be sure to let us know how it goes!
#94 of 121 Re: 4 cyl RAV4 vs 4 cyl Outlander? [fushigi]
Jul 22, 2009 (12:19 pm)
According to this the 4 Cly 4B12 uses a timing chain.
The 6 cyl timing belt is good for 105K/84 months(7 yrs), whichever first BTW.
Needing towing power, I opted for the 6 cylinder and have been very pleased .
The 6 speed tranny is smooth and I've gotten as much as 28MPG on the highway
(usually around 20 around town and 25+ on highway with my 4WD LS model.)
While I haven't driven a CVT, the concept sounds a bit weird to me (keep the engine revving and vary the coupling, Sounds like it would be noisier)