Last post on May 10, 2010 at 5:35 AM
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Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Car Comparisons, SUV
#1542 of 1581 Re: moving experience [fushigi]
Apr 22, 2010 (2:53 pm)
Your trailers look pleasant, whereas the trailer of my dreams looked more like this
Fetching I'm sure, pulled by a Rally Red Outlander.
#1543 of 1581 Re: moving experience [authurdent]
Apr 22, 2010 (3:42 pm)
Somehow I'm hearing dueling banjos in the background when I look at that trailer.
#1544 of 1581 Re: moving experience [fushigi]
Apr 22, 2010 (7:01 pm)
I reckon you could fit more banjos in the back of an Outlander than a Forester
#1545 of 1581 Re: moving experience [authurdent]
Apr 23, 2010 (7:43 am)
Keep in mind you'll need a trailer with trailer brakes to tow something that large, and most small trailers don't have 'em.
You can pull 3500 lbs, but can you safely stop 7000+ lbs with the stock brakes? The front rotors are smaller than the Forester's.
Does Mitsu's stock hitch come with plug with the 4-connector flat plug, or the big style plug with more connectors? If it's the 4-plug you may need adaptors, depending on the trailer you get.
#1547 of 1581 possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help
Apr 25, 2010 (1:34 pm)
I am looking to buy a new small AWD CUV shortly- (within 3 months).
After exhaustive research I have my search narrowed down to the Outlander XLS, Forester 2.5X Limited, Sante Fe Limited, and CR-V EX-L- no nav unit since none listed offer TTS capability- I'll keep my 199 dollar garmin for that. This will be my first car purchase- prior I leased my cars- from a 2004 Malibu & 2008 MKX
Each CUV has their own strenghts and weaknesses for my purpose-looking to downsize- but still have a great auto with good features and hold for 8-10 years as I being a family (and drive around the golden retreiver)- interior quality, safety, realiability, decent mpg (averaging 13.5 on my MKX- time to go when lease is up), and room for the dog to sit in the back (and eventually a car seat)...
Tiguan and Rogue were elminated for reliability issues as well as lack of space, Tucson is 1st year model - no bugs worked out, CX-7 for reliability issues, CX-9 is to obig and $$ for this time around...so I am left with the following-
1) Outlander- pro-loaded with feautres, warranty, seems fund to drive
the main con is the premium fuel isse- although I see on this forum that it is only a recommendation not a requirement- would using regular 87 alter the warranty at all??
Also- how have Outlander owners felt about the Mitsu warranty?- one of the big problems I have read with Hyundai is that unless all service was done by the dealer they look to deny warranty claims- obviously the 5/60 & 10/100 warrant are a HUGE feature !!
2) Forester-pro- reliability, lack of depreciation, owner loyalty, solid build
con- no bluetooth w/o nav (NY has hands free law), sub-par interior quality
3) Sante Fe- pro- superb interior, warranty (possibly??), rear ventilation (for the dog and future little ones), packed with features..
con- some build issues, keep reading about acceleration issues (but could just be people over-blowing issue in light of the camry issue), dubious warranty issue/mandatory dealer service
4) CR-V - pro- nice interior, honda reliability, re-sale value
con- weak engine, lack of blue-tooth, poor mpg for V-4, road noise, possible rear differential issue
Would anyone have any insight or recommendations on any of the 4 above?? obviously this threat caters to Outlander and Forester owners- but many on here seem to know quite a bit about the competition in the small CUV category...
Please feel free to reply with any input- this site had been a wonderful resource for my research esp for someone who is not a car buff- but just wants to buy a long term safe, reliable CUV for his family.
Thanks in advance for all your help - and for the insightful posts prior to mine...
#1548 of 1581 Re: possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help [newguy53]
Apr 25, 2010 (1:38 pm)
2nd parahraph should read - as I plan on begining a family...proof-reading would help...
#1549 of 1581 Re: possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help [newguy53]
Apr 25, 2010 (1:49 pm)
I'm pretty sure service on the Outlander does not have to be done at Mitsu dealer to keep the warranty intact. Service manager at local dealer said as long as the car is not obviously, abused, modified or neglected, should be no warranty issues.
I think the premium fuel recommendation is just for the GT with the higher horsepower engine, my '07 with the V6 doesn't call for premium.
My '07 Awd Outlander has been a great car with no problems whatsoever.
#1550 of 1581 Re: possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help [newguy53]
Apr 25, 2010 (4:13 pm)
Quick answer: Don't walk, but rather RUN to your local neighborhood Mitsubishi dealer and get yourself a shiny new Outlander! Seriously... here's my quick & dirty rundown of your top 4 candidates...
CRV might be a fine car, but for me they're so ubiquitous to the point of nausea. Like the RAV4, I can go out my front porch and probably throw a rock at 3 or 4 CRVs. You *might* get reliability, but I bet you don't get a good value.
The Sante Fe may be a good value, but I don't care for the styling or boring ride. And I'm not entirely sure about Hyundai reliability just yet. I think many overlook shortcomings with the very attractive warranty.
The 2009/2010 Forester might be the very first Subaru I'd EVER consider. Never cared for Subarus in the past, but the new Forester isn't a bad looker, has great utility and good engines. Just not crazy about the seats and interior.
And now for the GRAND finale.. drum roll please.. the Outlander takes top honors for exterior looks, excellent seats, qualified value and excellent warranty. Of course I'm partial, since I've had 20 years of Mitsus with zero problems.
As always, take some test drives. Could be your decision comes down to something totally unpredictable, like dealer location or available colors or seatbelt comfort or even how sweetly the salesperson whispers... "how did you enjoy the handling?"
#1551 of 1581 Re: possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help [newguy53]
Apr 25, 2010 (4:20 pm)
And for greater edification, here is my less-than-expert
Outlander vs. Forester Comparison
ateixeira will stop by in the next 5 minutes to tell you the rest of the story!