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#900 of 909 Re: best in class per category [ateixeira] by chelentano Dec 04, 2009 (3:25 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2009 8:52 am) >> That's not all - you can buy green HID headlight kit.   Sure you can complain about Mitsu HID colors , when Forester does not offer any HID .   >> Also, the headliner is odor-absorbing, so your flatulence actually does not smell bad!   Oh, I see, so if you drive Subaru, then your flatulence does smell bad. "You can't make this stuff up." .   >> PS Forester resale is best in class, 62% on a 3 year lease per , Edmunds' host.   car_man / no_name message board host? Prestigious_nomination.   I actually got more then 62% out of my Outlander. Bought $26.5K sold: $19k. According to the KBB though, the Best Resale Value crossover is C-RV: http://mediaroom.kbb.com/kelley-blue-book-announces-winners-2009-best-resale-val- - - ue-awards. Replies to this message: robm2 (Dec 04, 2009 6:35 pm) ateixeira (Dec 04, 2009 6:47 pm)
#901 of 909 Re: best in class per category [thegraduate] by chelentano Dec 04, 2009 (3:31 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 04, 2009 6:23 am) >> Nothing says "SUV Value" like the driving the car with the best-in-class lighting package and slalom speed.   Sure, if these are your priorities. Some may like more the other stuff such as: * Navigation: Outlander (free traffic info and Diamond Line Guidance) * Audio System: Outlander (710 watt RF w 10" sub) * Warranty/roadside: Outlander (5/10/5 roadside) * AWD: Outlander (torque vectoring with Active Yaw Control, 3-mode) * Transmission: Outlander (6-speed with paddles and neutral logic)? * Interior with double stitch leather dash and door panels. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2009 6:53 pm) comem47 (Dec 05, 2009 3:47 am) ateixeira (Dec 05, 2009 5:07 am)
#902 of 909 Re: best in class per category [rsholland] by chelentano Dec 04, 2009 (3:42 pm)
Replying to: rsholland (Dec 04, 2009 7:23 am) >> The question should be; not as to which car, the Forester or Outlander is better; but rather will Mitsubishi remain in the U.S. market.   No, the question should be; will Subaru remain in the global market, with about 50,000 car annual production decline, this year staggering 3/4 billion dollar loss, and desperate measures to cut costs by going to Chinese suppliers and downgrading car equipment?
#903 of 909 Re: best in class per category [chelentano] by robm2 Dec 04, 2009 (6:35 pm)
Replying to: chelentano (Dec 04, 2009 3:25 pm) >> Sure you can complain about Mitsu HID colors , when Forester does not offer any HID   Where did the HID's on my wife's '09 F-XT come from?   Headlights: Contoured multi-reflector Xenon High Intensity Discharge (HID) (low beam) with auto levelizer http://www.subaru.ca
#904 of 909 Re: best in class per category [chelentano] by ateixeira Dec 04, 2009 (6:47 pm)
Replying to: chelentano (Dec 04, 2009 3:25 pm) car_man / no_name message board host?   Now you're insulting our hosts?   If you don't respect Edmunds, why are you posting here?   Also, your said your lease was 30 months.
#905 of 909 Re: best in class per category [chelentano] by ateixeira Dec 04, 2009 (6:53 pm)
Replying to: chelentano (Dec 04, 2009 3:31 pm) Don't forget the 40 Gig I mean 9 Gig music server where you can rip your old CDs from the 1980s.   Replies to this message: comem47 (Dec 05, 2009 3:47 am) ateixeira (Dec 05, 2009 5:07 am)
#906 of 909 Re: best in class per category [chelentano] by ateixeira Dec 04, 2009 (7:13 pm)
Replying to: chelentano (Dec 03, 2009 9:46 pm) * Top IIHS safety pick: Honda Element   Forester is also a Top IIHS Safety Pick, and actually scored better on the roof crush test than the Element did, so that's incorrect.   Forester is also the class winner for the Polk Automotive Loyalty (RL Polk). Not only did in win in Compact SUVs, it beat all Midsize SUVs, all Full-size SUVs, and all luxury SUVs.   Range Rover came close, but Forester owners are the most loyal SUV owners, period.   Biggest moonroof? Not sure, but likely.   Most space efficient - more total EPA interior space than an Outlander with an overall length shorter than a Chevy Cobalt coupe. Small outside, big inside.   Most ground clearance in its class.   Best angle of approach.   Best angle of departure.   Best breakover angle.   Best visibility.   Consumer Reports top rated small SUV.   Car & Driver 5Best trucks.   Motor Trend Car of the Year.   Motorweek Driver's Choice Award.   ...you get the point.   Forester wins plenty of wins and best-in-class, I'm sure there are many more.
#907 of 909 Re: best in class per category [ateixeira] by comem47 Dec 05, 2009 (3:47 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2009 6:53 pm) Hey we finally get to see that chelentano and ateixeira are just warring siblings       Replies to this message: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2009 5:07 am)
#908 of 909 Re: best in class per category [comem47] by ateixeira Dec 05, 2009 (5:07 am)
Replying to: comem47 (Dec 05, 2009 3:47 am) Good one!
#909 of 909 How are car lease residuals set? (from Lease Guide) by ateixeira Dec 05, 2009 (5:20 am)
Auto lease residuals are always — always — set as a percentage of MSRP — never on negotiated price. This is a point that is frequently misunderstood by leasing consumers. For example, a vehicle with a MSRP sticker price of $30,000 and a 50% residual percentage would have an estimated $15,000 residual value at lease-end — regardless of negotiated lease price   So he got $19k after 30 months.   What was the MSRP? Edmunds loaded 07 Outlander was $30,615.   So the 30 month residuals was 62%.   At that rate you could have kept a Forester 6 months longer for free.

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