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Re: Electric powered steering [thegraduate] by madpistol
Nov 12, 2008 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 12, 2008 4:37 pm)

Most companies are compensating with increased stiffness at high speeds when using electric power steering. I also have to say that using my Altima at low speeds is a breeze. In fact, it's much easier than any other midsize sedan I've tested thus far. However, it's still very responsive, and it stiffens up when traveling at higher speeds.
 
Honestly, you can say whatever you want about FWD vs. RWD cars. The problem is during this day, RWD sedans have become associated with Luxury/sports cars far more than regular sedans. It's very difficult to find a RWD sedan for < $30k. The exceptions are the Pontiac G8 and the Dodge Charger/Chrysler 300C, which both cars can EASILY be pushed above $30k by adding on a few options. Realize that the only import car is the G8... since the G8 is Australian, is that considered an upgrade or a downgrade compared to domestics? Back on topic, I've heard about the woes of the Corolla's EPS, but I haven't experienced it first hand yet. Some people describe it like "steering a brick" except that the brick would at least tell you what its limits were. Hopefully, the 2010 Camry will stay clear of this sort of approach.
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Re: Electric powered steering [madpistol] by thegraduate
Nov 13, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: madpistol (Nov 12, 2008 10:29 pm)

Sure. Even my old '96 Accord has "Torque-Sensitive" hydraulic power steering. My point was that losing power-steering assist when driving wouldn't really be "dangerous" unless you were driving at extra-legal speeds on a curvy road. Otherwise, it'd just firm up the steering.
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Re: Electric powered steering [thegraduate] by wwest
Nov 18, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 13, 2008 6:54 am)

Obviously you have never encountered a condition of PS pump failure. You not only have to use enough energy to turn the wheels but now you have to "PUSH" the hydraulic fluid "around".
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Re: Electric powered steering [wwest] by thegraduate
Nov 18, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Nov 18, 2008 1:13 pm)

Obviously you have never encountered a condition of PS pump failure
 
Sorry, you're wrong.
 
I've driven a car with power steering when the vehicle stalled/died at speed. All hydraulic power was lost (electricals were fine, however). Losing braking power was the issue; losing power steering wasn't a problem at all.
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Re: Electric powered steering [thegraduate] by wwest
Nov 19, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 18, 2008 1:24 pm)

"At speed" isn't generally a problem as the need to turn widely isn't there.
 
Think of having to parallel park, for instance.
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Re: Electric powered steering [wwest] by thegraduate
Nov 19, 2008 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Nov 19, 2008 1:56 pm)

The danger is awfully low if you aren't "at speed." If my power steering fails, I'm not going to parallel park somewhere. I'm going to get the thing fixed!
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Re: 40 MPG [mayow] by rtdunham
Nov 19, 2008 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: mayow (Jul 22, 2008 9:42 am)

mayow wrote: " Edmunds says that the new Prius may hit 100mpg. If that is true..."
 
yeah, but read the article. there's a misleading headline and nothing in the story to support that 100mpg claim. lousy journalism.
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Production-- by seatoyotasales
Dec 19, 2008 (12:40 am)
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2010 Camry's will begin production in March of 09. To confirm some changes:
 
1. NEW 2.5 4 Cyl engine.
2. New front and rear bumpers, grill, headlights, taillights.
3. New Wheel Design.
 
Speculative changes:
 
1. A new color or two
2. Gen 6 Nav system
3. Minor interior trim changes--gauge and control fonts may change.
4. More availability of Smart Key on models other than XLE.
5. Hybrid version may get more trim/exterior mods to differentiate it from gas models.
 
More to come if I can confirm any other changes.
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Re: Production-- [seatoyotasales] by mcdawgg
Dec 19, 2008 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Dec 19, 2008 12:40 am)

Do you know anything about transmissions for the 4 cylinder?
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Re: Production-- [seatoyotasales] by dm157
Dec 19, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Dec 19, 2008 12:40 am)

Thanks for the update. Do you have any pictures yet?

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