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Toyota Camry, Sedan
#943 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [wwest]
Mar 19, 2010 (10:40 am)
Clueless you are!
I'm getting 20 MPG in a 4800# vehicle that can safely haul 6 people, and pull a 4500# trailer, and has 355HP at my command. Do you really think that a car with V8 power getting the FE of a V6 is a gas guzzler? Heck I haven't even taken it on the highway yet. It has 1500 miles on it, and MPG can only go up the more I drive it. I am getting better MPG with this than I did in the 2008 Hyundai Veracruz by 2 MPG. Would you rather I drove my F350 Dually diesel that gets 14 MPG on diesel? I looked at all 6 passenger vehicles and the Flex was the best when it came down to interior room, towing capacity, handling and comfort. Why would I not get a high performance V6 that gets the SAME FE as the standard v6? I owned two Toyotas in the past 3 years, they are not anything write home about, at least not good things. The Prius was dangerous to drive where I live, and the Camry handled like a rowboat. Neither one of them can take my wife and kids and I anywhere unless one of them rode in the trunk.
What you FAIL to know about the Ecoboost motor is unlike other production turbo charged engines, this one is DESIGNED to run on turbos, it has nearly the same compression ratio as the non turbo 3.5 10.0:1 vs 10.3:1. It is detuned for a reason, to prevent damaged to the AWD drive train, it is limited to 350#' of torque, which it reaches at 1500 RPM, if it exceeded that torque it would tear the drive train apart, much the same as the Prius drive train is limited in slippage, too much and it would destroy the drive train.
Get a clue before you decide to slam something.
#944 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [acdii]
Mar 19, 2010 (10:47 am)
The compression ratio "standard" for DFI engines is more in the range of 12:1. And while that may also be true I didn't mean detuned/derated in BOOST mode, only when the engine is under light loading, say during relatively constant speed cruising on level terrain.
Damn fuelish to run with less than the optimal CR 99% of the time.
#945 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [gtgtcobra]
Mar 19, 2010 (3:15 pm)
gtcotcobra hit it right, I had VW's and two Audi's excellent, minimimal problems and they handle like clocks, sorry the Japanese cars do not handle the same no matter what magic gadgetry they put in them. And I will take a car built in Germany but when they are built in Mexico no way, it's like building them in the KY. Where were the brake parts built for the Camarys the US what Toyota cars are having the most problems the ones built in the US, where were the cars built that don't have the real problems Japan. I'm an American and it seems we still can't get out of our own way. Maybe there should be a law prohibiting foreginers from running US companies, period.
#946 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [packer3]
Mar 19, 2010 (3:24 pm)
Has anybody looked at reliability ratings for German built vehicles recently?
#947 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [gtgtcobra]
Mar 19, 2010 (5:40 pm)
I would take a German built car that's built 100% in Germany by hard working Germans over an American built Japanese car that's built in Kentucky by lazy Americans. The Germans are much harder workers than the Americans and they take pride in the cars that they build
Huh? Germany, like most of Europe, probably has more militant unions with greater work rules and restrictions than North America. MB, BMW and VW don't generally lead the reliability surveys and often cost a fortune to maintain and repair, but the German's do design and build "drivers" cars with nice interiors
#948 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [packer3]
Mar 19, 2010 (6:59 pm)
a Camry and any one of the Lexus products certainly won't handle well but you apparently have never driven a Infiniti; their products are up to the handling standards of BMW and are even better than Audi as a whole when it comes to handling; if you want the best handling car around, you'll want a BMW or Infiniti!
#949 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [smarty666]
Mar 21, 2010 (9:55 am)
I have driven the Infiniti, excellent car, my brother in law has one he had an Audi, had some minimal problems, got the Infinity loves it hardly any problems, but he waill be the first to say hands down for handling Audi.
BMW best dry pavement car around, rain or snow leave it home, my daughter has an 08 with all the rear electroncis, got stuck in our driveway the last snow storm and the driveway height is almost equal to the road. Took my 08 Accord and made it to work through the blizzard with no problem.
#950 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [packer3]
Mar 21, 2010 (10:18 am)
well I've driven Audi's and Infiniti's and have always found the Infiniti's to be a little more precise in the handling department, but it does depend on what models you drive from each company; I personally like Audi a little bit better on a overall basis, especially the interior's, some of the best in the business!!
#951 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [smarty666]
Mar 21, 2010 (1:06 pm)
A Camry is FWD as is the Lexus version of the Camry, the ES350. With the exceptions of the ES and the RX series the entire Lexus line is RWD or R/awd based. I believe that is also true of the Infinity products.
RWD or R/awd vehicle will always provide better handling dynamics than any, ANY, FWD or F/awd vehicle. The SH-AWD system being the only competition that even comes close.
Yes, FWD, with the engine forward weight bias, will often provide better foul weather traction for initial "get up and go" than a RWD or R/awd. But that slight advantage pales in comparsion to the horrble safety factor of FWD once underway in those foul weather conditions.
#952 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [wwest]
Mar 21, 2010 (3:38 pm)
your not telling me anything I don't already know its actually my fault, I got side tracked with Packer there about Audi and Infiniti! my bad