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#937 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [packer3] by gtgtcobra

Mar 18, 2010 (9:45 pm)

Replying to: packer3 (Mar 18, 2010 5:08 pm)
I'm having the same exact thoughts about the gas pedal issue. I seriously doubt that Toyota will find the exact cause of the problem and fix the issue. I think that it will take more than reprogramming the computer or putting a shim in the gas pedal. I really believe that the shim which Toyota service put on my gas pedal on my Camry is a temporary fix. It's just like putting a band aid on the problem.
The ONLY good thing about this whole thing is that I will be giving my Camry back in December 2013. By then Toyota will have come out with the redesigned newer and better built 2014 Camry. I have a feeling that Toyota will redesign and revamp lots of things in the new 2014 Camry that they couldn't fix on the 2010 model.
If they do this I will probably lease another Camry. If not, I have my eyes on the VW CC which is 100% built in Germany. I would take a German built car that's built 100% in Germany by hard working Germans over an American built Japanese car that's built in Kentucky by lazy Americans. The Germans are much harder workers than the Americans and they take pride in the cars that they build. I've driven German built cars like the VW and Opel vehicles while living and visiting Europe within the last 20 years and thru my experience I've noticed that the German made cars are very well made and higher quality than the American built Japanese cars.

#938 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [gtgtcobra] by petras2

Mar 19, 2010 (9:01 am)

Replying to: gtgtcobra (Mar 18, 2010 9:45 pm)
Can't agree with your comments.. the folks building camrys in georgetown, ky are hard working and do a good job..re german built car quality, they are nice cars but all the surveys I've read report declining quality of many VW and Mercedes models in recent years..

#939 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [wwest] by thegraduate

Mar 19, 2010 (9:23 am)

Replying to: wwest (Mar 18, 2010 1:58 pm)
Huh? What does that have to do with Toyota? We get it (and have gotten it at least a dozen times) that you're anti-marketing.

#940 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [thegraduate] by wwest

Mar 19, 2010 (9:29 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 19, 2010 9:23 am)
"..anti-marketing.."
 
Aren't we all..??
 
But in this case more like "anti-gas-guzzlers".

#941 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [wwest] by thegraduate

Mar 19, 2010 (9:34 am)

Replying to: wwest (Mar 19, 2010 9:29 am)
"..anti-marketing.."
  
Aren't we all..??
  
But in this case more like "anti-gas-guzzlers".
 
350hp, 22 MPG, AWD, 7-passenger luxury. What else has an MPG to power ratio that good?
 
No, I'm not anti-marketing. I graduated a communications major and have experience in commercial-writing. How is one to know about a product without marketing/advertising? Catchy names help that, too. EcoBoost, Duratec, Valvetronic, Hydramatic, Quadrasteer... it goes on and on...

#942 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [thegraduate] by wwest

Mar 19, 2010 (10:20 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 19, 2010 9:34 am)
The EcoBoost/TwinForce engine will spend the clear majority, ~98%, of its operational life operating in derated/detuned mode. Poor FE, EXTREMELY poor cruise mode FE in comparison to the same engine running with DFI but not detuned/derated in order to accommodate BOOST pressure.

#943 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [wwest] by acdii

Mar 19, 2010 (10:40 am)

Replying to: wwest (Mar 19, 2010 10:20 am)
Clueless you are!
 
I'm getting 20 MPG in a 4800# vehicle that can safely haul 6 people, and pull a 4500# trailer, and has 355HP at my command. Do you really think that a car with V8 power getting the FE of a V6 is a gas guzzler? Heck I haven't even taken it on the highway yet. It has 1500 miles on it, and MPG can only go up the more I drive it. I am getting better MPG with this than I did in the 2008 Hyundai Veracruz by 2 MPG. Would you rather I drove my F350 Dually diesel that gets 14 MPG on diesel? I looked at all 6 passenger vehicles and the Flex was the best when it came down to interior room, towing capacity, handling and comfort. Why would I not get a high performance V6 that gets the SAME FE as the standard v6? I owned two Toyotas in the past 3 years, they are not anything write home about, at least not good things. The Prius was dangerous to drive where I live, and the Camry handled like a rowboat. Neither one of them can take my wife and kids and I anywhere unless one of them rode in the trunk.
 
What you FAIL to know about the Ecoboost motor is unlike other production turbo charged engines, this one is DESIGNED to run on turbos, it has nearly the same compression ratio as the non turbo 3.5 10.0:1 vs 10.3:1. It is detuned for a reason, to prevent damaged to the AWD drive train, it is limited to 350#' of torque, which it reaches at 1500 RPM, if it exceeded that torque it would tear the drive train apart, much the same as the Prius drive train is limited in slippage, too much and it would destroy the drive train.
 
Get a clue before you decide to slam something.

#944 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [acdii] by wwest

Mar 19, 2010 (10:47 am)

Replying to: acdii (Mar 19, 2010 10:40 am)
The compression ratio "standard" for DFI engines is more in the range of 12:1. And while that may also be true I didn't mean detuned/derated in BOOST mode, only when the engine is under light loading, say during relatively constant speed cruising on level terrain.
 
Damn fuelish to run with less than the optimal CR 99% of the time.

#945 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [gtgtcobra] by packer3

Mar 19, 2010 (3:15 pm)

Replying to: gtgtcobra (Mar 18, 2010 9:45 pm)
gtcotcobra hit it right, I had VW's and two Audi's excellent, minimimal problems and they handle like clocks, sorry the Japanese cars do not handle the same no matter what magic gadgetry they put in them. And I will take a car built in Germany but when they are built in Mexico no way, it's like building them in the KY. Where were the brake parts built for the Camarys the US what Toyota cars are having the most problems the ones built in the US, where were the cars built that don't have the real problems Japan. I'm an American and it seems we still can't get out of our own way. Maybe there should be a law prohibiting foreginers from running US companies, period.

#946 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [packer3] by kiawah

Mar 19, 2010 (3:24 pm)

Replying to: packer3 (Mar 19, 2010 3:15 pm)
Has anybody looked at reliability ratings for German built vehicles recently?

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