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#924 of 1027 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing by motorcity6

Mar 13, 2010 (12:06 pm)

Dealers are discounting heavy to move inventory, however the blips noted on this message board kinda cooked my desire for any Camry of 2011 vintage..It's a basically a 2007 with some improvements..Toyota went the GM road with all of it's sales glory and butchered the quality to improve the bottom line..The 2012 offering should be an improvement..
 
Off the subject---tires---Had 4-Hankooks installed on the 06 Grand Prix GT about 12k miles ago, pure junk!!!!,H-rated,directional tread, noisy, noisy,noisy, and prone to flat spotting..Tires are Chinese-made...Had the local Pontiac dealer install them and road-force balance them..Car only has 42k mi, so Monday I am going to have Michelin Harmonies installed, only T-rated, however from experience on a 2002 Olds Intrigue they were good for high mileage, no flat spotting, or noise..no shake..Just keep the speed under 118 mph..This week I had a 2002 Camry XLE reshod with Yokahamas and brakes redone, first time rears were turned, 79.5k mi., friend's car..Not a great tire, but balanced out good, and smooth running..If it lasts 30k mi, no complaints..
 
Tire Rack was the supplier, ordered one day, arrived and installed the next day..In Florida..Will do the same with the Michelins..
 
Thanks for the input on Camrys, and I can now wait for the 2011 Mustang GT..Really hate to give up my S/Charged Pontiac, it's too young along with the bargain purchase price..it loves gas, v-plus Shell...
 
Happy Motoring---Camry Owners---Thanks again for your honesty..Back to the Motorcity offerings..Toyota will get out of its current mess, will probably cost them 4-5 billion, but the Japanese banks will cover the mess.
 
The California Prius owner who went 20+miles on a stuck accelerator pedal is not a beliveable character, and the story is bogus..

#925 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [motorcity6] by acdii

Mar 15, 2010 (6:01 am)

Replying to: motorcity6 (Mar 13, 2010 12:06 pm)
The California Prius owner who went 20+miles on a stuck accelerator pedal is not a beliveable character, and the story is bogus..
 
Unless you have driven a Prius and understand how it works, you may want to retract that until it has been proven. The braking on the Prius is very sensitive and has many fail safes to cut power when the brakes are applied. Unless he modified the car, which if he did, they would have figured it out by now, then there is a high probability of a ghost in the machine. There is a possibility he did not know how to put the car in neutral, do you? The Prius does not have a conventional shifter, there is no PRND shifter on the car, there is a knob with an h pattern and a button to put it in park. The entire drivetrain is computer controlled, there is not one physical link between the engine, transmission and the controls in the cab, the one and only physical link it the brake pedal to the brakes, and even that is computer controlled. It is a scary event when you hit a bump and lose your brakes for a moment, and wind up slamming them on in a panic stop. There are quite a few quirks in the Prius that make me believe this happened to him, all the quirks I found kill power to the wheels, and he had to have had a couple times where a quirk would have happened. Hitting a bump with the brakes applied that would cause a wheel to hop would have killed power momentarily, having the brakes fully applied overrides the gas pedal, so you can have brink on the gas pedal, the engine would still stop.
 
I will hold my verdict on this until it can be proven to be a hoax, when they can duplicate it 100% as a hoax, until then, I will wait before pointing fingers. Especially since I had a Camry Hybrid that would surge coming to a stop, and my coworkers Prius is now starting to do the same thing.

#926 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [acdii] by 210delray

Mar 15, 2010 (6:54 am)

Replying to: acdii (Mar 15, 2010 6:01 am)
The guy seems totally disreputable though with fraudulent insurance claims and some $700,000 in debt, not due to misfortune such as illness or job loss but apparent reckless spending. His credibility goes down with each new revelation.
 
I would highly doubt there are significant bumps on Interstate 8 in SoCal -- we're not talking about potholed city streets as in NYC or Detroit.
 
More on James Sikes and his "runaway" Prius here.

#927 of 1027 Re: Camry 2010: What are you going to do?? [petras2] by dookie84

Mar 15, 2010 (1:43 pm)

Replying to: petras2 (Mar 10, 2010 10:13 am)
This seems like a dumb question. Is there any way the car can keep going if it's in Neutral? It seems like this would be impossible. If it is impossible, why don't we hear more about this? Maybe they computers really are taking over. Move over, Hal. Before all this came out, I named my car Christine after the car in the Stephen King novel because she seemed to be in charge.

#928 of 1027 Re: Camry 2010: What are you going to do?? [dookie84] by 210delray

Mar 15, 2010 (8:01 pm)

Replying to: dookie84 (Mar 15, 2010 1:43 pm)
i>Is there any way the car can keep going if it's in Neutral?
 
Only if it's moving forward down a hill (or backward on an upgrade).

#929 of 1027 Re: Camry 2010: What are you going to do?? [210delray] by wwest

Mar 16, 2010 (8:23 am)

Replying to: 210delray (Mar 15, 2010 8:01 pm)
Internal to the HSD system ECU's computer memory a variable gets "set" in an usual way/path. Say simultaeous brake/gas pedal depression along with manual activation of the cruise control "set/accel" function. That variable puts the system in the "set/accel" mode. Now due to an inadvertent programmer mistake there is a instruction execution sequence "race" condition that prevents the variable from being cleared normally, such as with the use of the brakes.
 
Full braking frictional capability is not available because while the HSD system control ECU "tells" the skid control ECU it will do ~50-70% of the braking regeneratively, due to the variable being "set" it never does.

#930 of 1027 Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ by gtgtcobra

Mar 16, 2010 (10:44 pm)

Has the Camry problem been resolved by putting the shim on the gas pedal? Toyota service put a shim on my gas pedal on my 2010 Camry LE. I've been hearing in the news that Toyota now thinks that the gas pedal sticking could be caused from a computer problem inside the car somewhere. When I called Toyota service yesterday and asked about this, they told me that ONLY certain VIN numbers for the 2010 Camry LE need their computers reprogrammed. They didn't give me a straight answer as to whether or not they knew that the computer inside the Camry was the cause of the gas pedals sticking. It's like Toyota service has "no clue" as to what's going on or they don't want to say anything about it.
Does anybody in here have any concrete information and updates on the 2010 Camry as to what the real cause of the gas pedal sticking is? Is it a computer problem? Or did Toyota service already fix the problem by putting a shim on the gas pedal like they did on my car? I would like to know.

#931 of 1027 Re: Has the Camry Problem been Resolved by............ [gtgtcobra] by acdii

Mar 17, 2010 (5:59 am)

Replying to: gtgtcobra (Mar 16, 2010 10:44 pm)
Considering there have been reports of cars racing after the fix was done, I doubt it to be a frictional issue. The PCM does all it's work based on voltages, even micro voltages. If some variable is off just a bit, it can cause all sorts of strange problems. For all we know, there could be a bad batch of resistors sending the incorrect voltages to the PCM and skewing its readings.
 
Does anyone have an iphone or Nextel? Have you placed it near a phone or speaker and heard the noise it makes? It could be something as simple as noise that causes this. Heck I used to drive around opening garage doors with a CB radio. Since these cars are all drive by wire now, one little glitch is all it takes to cause the car to go out of control. Just like the Airbus crashes of recent history. The computers overrode the pilots inputs because it thought they were doing something that shouldn't be allowed, yet didn't know that the plane was in danger because of a couple sensors that had incorrect data.
 
As far as that Prius driver, I am reserving judgement until all the facts are in. My very first thought was he is playing a hoax, but I want to see where it goes first before placing the blame on him. I drove a Prius for 24,000 miles, and never had a problem with it going off like that, in fact I had just the opposite problem, getting it going! The traction control was so sensitive that any little tire slip killed power to the wheels, and when you are trying to merge into 55 MPH traffic from a side road, losing power is the last thing you want, hence the main reason we got rid of it.
 
A slight correction to what I said earlier about putting it into neutral, the shifter moves to the left, not the right, so it is a backwards h pattern. I haven't been in one for 2 years and forgot the direction it moves. It still needs to be held for a few seconds before it will go into neutral.

#932 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [acdii] by motorcity6

Mar 18, 2010 (10:02 am)

Replying to: acdii (Mar 15, 2010 6:01 am)
Time will tell !!!!! 20+ miles and can't stop the car, sounds like a stretch to me..The Prius handles like a sports car?????

#933 of 1027 Re: 2011 Camry SEs, Great Pricing [motorcity6] by wwest

Mar 18, 2010 (10:06 am)

Replying to: motorcity6 (Mar 18, 2010 10:02 am)
With the Prius, or any of the Toyota HSD systems, the skid control computer is prohibited from using frictional braking without being granted "permission", designating % of frictional braking to be used, by the HSD computer.

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