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Re: Electric powered steering [aalsherri] by waltchan
Nov 12, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: aalsherri (Nov 11, 2008 10:33 pm)

Should the electric motor go out in the electric power steering, will the vehicle steering stop functioning all together, and you cannot turn the wheel at all, making it a deathtrap in a major accident? That's my major concern. It may be more dangerous than hydraulic steerings.
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Re: Electric powered steering [waltchan] by kiawah
Nov 12, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: waltchan (Nov 12, 2008 11:35 am)

Walt, don't fret until we see the actual deployment.
 
This could easily just be a small little electric/hydraulic pump using the same steering as today....in which case you'd still have steering. I'm sure the engineers' have thought about loosing electrical power.
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Re: Electric powered steering [waltchan] by lucky_777
Nov 12, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: waltchan (Nov 12, 2008 11:35 am)

It is not fully electrical steering but electrically assisted. You still will be able to steer even if electrical assist will die, just going to be much tougher to turn the steering wheel. Technology seems to be OK, I have it on my 08 HL and it works without any problems.
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Re: Electric powered steering [kiawah] by wwest
Nov 12, 2008 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Nov 12, 2008 11:45 am)

Nothing could be worse than trying to stear, turn your stearing wheel, with a DEAD PS pump.
 
Most current electric power stearing systems have an overheat mode wherein it operates at reduced capacity if used "too"(??) much. Apparently a few owners have already encountered this problem.
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Re: Electric powered steering [wwest] by thegraduate
Nov 12, 2008 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Nov 12, 2008 4:09 pm)

Actually, steering without power assist isn't much of a problem except when operating the vehicle at very low speeds.
 
My granddad preferred the non-power steering of his old Honda to the power-assisted steering on his Frontier. Said it was much easier to keep straight on the highway.
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Re: Electric powered steering [thegraduate] by madpistol
Nov 12, 2008 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 12, 2008 4:37 pm)

Most companies are compensating with increased stiffness at high speeds when using electric power steering. I also have to say that using my Altima at low speeds is a breeze. In fact, it's much easier than any other midsize sedan I've tested thus far. However, it's still very responsive, and it stiffens up when traveling at higher speeds.
 
Honestly, you can say whatever you want about FWD vs. RWD cars. The problem is during this day, RWD sedans have become associated with Luxury/sports cars far more than regular sedans. It's very difficult to find a RWD sedan for < $30k. The exceptions are the Pontiac G8 and the Dodge Charger/Chrysler 300C, which both cars can EASILY be pushed above $30k by adding on a few options. Realize that the only import car is the G8... since the G8 is Australian, is that considered an upgrade or a downgrade compared to domestics? Back on topic, I've heard about the woes of the Corolla's EPS, but I haven't experienced it first hand yet. Some people describe it like "steering a brick" except that the brick would at least tell you what its limits were. Hopefully, the 2010 Camry will stay clear of this sort of approach.
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Re: Electric powered steering [madpistol] by thegraduate
Nov 13, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: madpistol (Nov 12, 2008 10:29 pm)

Sure. Even my old '96 Accord has "Torque-Sensitive" hydraulic power steering. My point was that losing power-steering assist when driving wouldn't really be "dangerous" unless you were driving at extra-legal speeds on a curvy road. Otherwise, it'd just firm up the steering.
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Re: Electric powered steering [thegraduate] by wwest
Nov 18, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 13, 2008 6:54 am)

Obviously you have never encountered a condition of PS pump failure. You not only have to use enough energy to turn the wheels but now you have to "PUSH" the hydraulic fluid "around".
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Re: Electric powered steering [wwest] by thegraduate
Nov 18, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Nov 18, 2008 1:13 pm)

Obviously you have never encountered a condition of PS pump failure
 
Sorry, you're wrong.
 
I've driven a car with power steering when the vehicle stalled/died at speed. All hydraulic power was lost (electricals were fine, however). Losing braking power was the issue; losing power steering wasn't a problem at all.
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Re: Electric powered steering [thegraduate] by wwest
Nov 19, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 18, 2008 1:24 pm)

"At speed" isn't generally a problem as the need to turn widely isn't there.
 
Think of having to parallel park, for instance.

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