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Subaru Forester, Wagon, SUV
First Drive: 2009 Subaru Forester XT - First Impressions: The style factor is up, but so is the practicality.(more)
Full Test: 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5XT Limited - Bottom Line: Bigger and better, the quirky little Forester has become a grown-up SUV. (more)
#1 of 71 Article Comments - 2009 Subaru Forester XT First Drive
by Karen@Edmunds HOST
Mar 28, 2008 (6:49 am)
When the Subaru Forester first appeared in 1997, no one called it a crossover. No one wanted to call it an SUV, either, because this would conjure up images of carbon-spewing, resource-depleting, endangered species-decimating wagons of doom to the eco-conscious crowd that Subaru has always attracted.
First Drive: 2009 Subaru Forester XT
#2 of 71 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Subaru Forester XT First Drive [KarenS]
Mar 28, 2008 (10:33 am)
While the write-up was very positive, I don't agree with the introductory statement. Ten years ago, SUVs hadn't yet developed a negative image. Of course gas was well under $2 a gal then...
#3 of 71 ok but light on info
Mar 28, 2008 (10:58 am)
The article seemed a basic recap of the Catalina Island testing that Subaru hosted. For a "first look", it was fine, and appreciated.
My experiences with my '09 Forester XT pretty much match the articles, though other than climbing one huge 45 degree asphalt hill w/ potholes (without much drama), my experiences are mostly city-suburan based.
Am looking forward to a followup with more concrete performance and fuel economy data, and - better - comparison with the other contenders in the Forester's niche!
Mar 28, 2008 (11:53 am)
Subaru demonstrated the Forester's cargo capabilities (not to mention its keen appreciation of its target audience) by showing us a 2009 Forester with 4,590 granola bars stowed in the rear cargo area
Hilarious! I spit the granola I was chewing out of my mouth when I read that.
175 lbs on the roof, cool. Need to buy cross bars, though. At least you can use Subaru Bucks.
I was happy to read this, too:
When we hit the pavement, we found the Forester base model with its five-speed manual transmission to be even more to our liking. It has an eager-to-please liveliness in terms of engine response and handling that seem more in character with a compact, go-anywhere utility vehicle
#5 of 71 First ever CUV?
Mar 28, 2008 (12:11 pm)
The 83 Toyota Tercel wagon was an upright boxy wagon- to the point of being funny looking for its time- with AWD (ok, 4WD, since it not only could be shifted into 4wd or 2wd, but also had an ultra-low gear and inclinometer). The original Forester was based on the, what we used to call, sub-compact Impreza as an upright boxy wagon with AWD. We can probably
#6 of 71 Re: First ever CUV? [unkownuser]
Mar 28, 2008 (12:51 pm)
That was a spiritual predecessor for the RAV4, sure, but AMC had the car-based Eagle in the late 70s, and Subaru put 4WD on their GL wagon way back in 1972.
So I wouldn't say Toyota came first.
#7 of 71 Not twin scroll turbo
Mar 28, 2008 (9:08 pm)
Neither the Forester nor the Impreza WRX has a twin-scroll turbo-charger. Only the Japanese 2.0L Turbo versions come with twin-scroll turbos.
Mar 29, 2008 (4:34 am)
Besides the upright boxy awd wagon Eagle and Tercel having justifiable precedent for being called crossovers or CUVs, there is also the Dodge Colt upright boxy AWD wagon of the late 80s/early 90s. This was a Mitsubishi what-we-then-called 'captive import.'
We will ignore any of the jeepy vehicles of the late 40s as well.
Probably the Forester gets the nod because it was still a current model when the industry started to market the new term 'crossover' at a time when nobody wanted mini vans or utility vehicles anymore, and Sub adherents could say, hey, that new marketing segments includes us as well. But the first?
#9 of 71 No Manual with Turbo = no Subie for me
Mar 29, 2008 (7:03 pm)
Why in the world, with the outdoor demographic, did Subaru drop the manual with the turbo? This car was at the top of my list - and is now no longer on it at all.
#10 of 71 Re: No Manual with Turbo = no Subie for me [vwtodd]
Mar 29, 2008 (7:09 pm)
Subaru apparently didn't sell enough of them to justify continuing that configuration.