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#12 of 64 x5 diesel by martfurt Nov 12, 2008 (11:57 am)
To answer to your question about the comarison of X5 to ML 320CDI. I just recently drove the Ml 320CDI. My wife were considering the ML 320 CDI for t he longest time, as the BMW X5 diesel was not available. After driving it, I don't like the 1-2 second hesitation from the turbo lag. It sucks. You step on it and it does not move. In my opinion it is a safety thing. Imagine you want to make a split decision manouver and you cant. or you do and it is too late as it took the car that one second to get out of the way. BMW X5 has twin turbo which compensates for the turbo lag. Plus it has more HP and torge. If you look att he 0-60 difference between the two, BMW X5 is faster by 1 second which is a lot. Might no seem like it but it is. Also according to their books, X5 is more fuel efficient in the city and highway(bonus). Just look up bmw.ca and all the specs are there Back in August I placed an order for the new X5 diesel and I should be getting the car at the beginning of Dec. I am confident the car will perform much better than the ML and I can't wait. I will update this comment when i get the car and let you know if it was worth the wait. Spoke to my sales man from BMW who had the truck on the track and said it performs just as the 4.8I. 0-80 km/h is instant. Replies to this message: anon3 (Nov 14, 2008 6:23 pm) b4z (Nov 18, 2008 5:10 am)
#13 of 64 Dec Delivery by kinjachris Nov 12, 2008 (6:38 pm)
Dealer I talked to had allocations expected to arrive in "early to mid december" and he was "underpromising and over delivering" as he quoted me. (translation, he expects to see the first units in the first week of December but can't guarantee it. Not too far off now.   They are going to have to get real on the cost issue however. Not paying a premium no matter what. Sure the first couple will go as a novelty premium just because they are new....then......   so lets do a little best case math. 15,000 miles / 22 mpg = 682 gallons per year gas 15,000 / 27 (generous) = 555 gals diesel = 127 gallons/yr savings   682 gals * $3.00 per gallon = $2046 555 gals * $3.30 per gallon (in LA) = $1831.50 savings ~ $214.50 per year   OK, I can hear someone saying it will probably be better "in town" but its going to have to do a LOT better in town to start making the cost differential gap close.   So lets just be honest and say its a cheap 4.8 liter option with a high chance of not being any savings at all in the long run.
#14 of 64 Re: X5 xDrive 35d = $52,025 (including destination) [gagrice] by pkh540 Nov 12, 2008 (7:07 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 12, 2008 6:45 am) Actually, was invited by BMW to drive the X5 (4.8 w/sport pkg) at a local driving event where they also had an ML 500, XC90 sport and Lexus GX 470. Without question, the BMW handled head and shoulders above the rest. I have a 540 and felt the X5 was every bit as amazing in its handling. I vowed I would buy one at some point to replace our Land Cruiser and was patiently waiting for the diesel.   But after doing the math, it just doesn't make financial sense (even with my BMW CCA discount and tax incentive)... BTW, was wrong about that it's $1550... and then no spare w/third row, run-flats... but that's more than you asked about! Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 14, 2008 9:41 am)
#15 of 64 Re: X5 xDrive 35d = $52,025 (including destination) [pkh540] by gagrice Nov 14, 2008 (9:41 am)
Replying to: pkh540 (Nov 12, 2008 7:07 pm) Thanks for the hands on review. I agree it will be tough to justify the X5 at all for me. I just would like to do some cross country touring and I am known to head out across less than well traveled roads. Some dirt roads. That eliminates any of the sedans for me. My Sequoia is fine for most just a gas hog with a short range. The no spare is a down side for sure. You just never know when you will be where your cell will not reach AAA. Is a spare available without the 3rd row? I have no interest in hauling that many people anyway.   I drove a used GL320 CDI and was not thrilled with the shifting of the transmission. It was very comfortable. I did not like the GX470 that we test drove before buying the Sequoia. I have friends with the X5s and all like them. Thanks again for the response.
#16 of 64 Re: x5 diesel [martfurt] by anon3 Nov 14, 2008 (6:23 pm)
Replying to: martfurt (Nov 12, 2008 11:57 am) "Spoke to my sales man from BMW who had the truck on the track and said it performs just as the 4.8I. 0-80 km/h is instant."   Your salesman referred to an X5 as a "truck"? You need a new salesman... one who knows enough about BMW to know that the X5 is not a truck and that BMW does not build anything on a truck platform. Replies to this message: b4z (Nov 18, 2008 5:10 am)
#17 of 64 Re: x5 diesel [anon3] by b4z Nov 18, 2008 (5:10 am)
Replying to: anon3 (Nov 14, 2008 6:23 pm) anon3,   A vehicle can be classed as a truck even if it is a unit body. Doesn't have to be Body on Frame. The Cayenne has a 7700 lb tow rating but is unit body. It's tow rating is higher than some body on frame SUVs.   in the coming years you will even be seeing full size trucks built on unit bodies.
#18 of 64 by b4z Nov 18, 2008 (5:14 am)
Another thing about the X5 that is REALLY impressive is that with the vehicle on an incline and only 2 wheels touching the ground you can open and close the rear liftgate. Apparently no other CUV/SAV can do that. Some you can't even open the liftgate, others the liftgate can be opened but not closed.   That's a stiff body structure.
#19 of 64 Sticker Shock by b4z Nov 18, 2008 (5:28 am)
Every time i look at a the X5 or any BMW for that matter I am floored by the MSRPs. Why haven't the MSRPs dropped with the increasing strength of the dollar? BMW must be laughing all the way to the bank since X5s are built in my home state.   The base price for the 3.0 is $47,100. You can barely option a V6 SRX up to that price. Most of the things that are options on the BMW are standard on other vehicles. The 3.0s that I have looked at are $57K!!!!!! And that's with only 225lb ft of torque.   The 4.8s I have looked at are $72K. It's just amazing.   There are so many things I like about the X5. The front legroom is huge(the rear is not however). The visibililty is much better than most. You can get a leather dash. Shadowline trim on the outside. Lots of wheel packages. Beautiful leather and color choices. As solidly built as any vehicle i have been in. The doors close with a THUNK! It is a great package. The front end design is brilliant. I don't like the plastic fascias and fender lips, but those can be painted.   I like it more than my SRX(which does some things better) The 6 X5 weighs and astonishing 700 lbs more than the SRX. .......and why isn't there a RWD version of the X5?   But I am going to continue to shop this vehicle and hope for some great deals.   The diesel is a very interesting option with 400lb ft of torque at only 1750rpms. i wonder how long the tranny will last behind that much torque? LOL.
#20 of 64 Biodiesel in the new X5 35d? by wademmiller Dec 09, 2008 (11:05 am)
Does anyone know if you can run biodiesel in the new 2009 X5 35d without any technical/engine issues? Will this potentially void the warranty? The ability to run biodiesel is one of the key reasons (outside similar performance with better mileage) I am looking to purchase the X5 35d. Thank you in advance for the education.   Waiting to order.... Replies to this message: pkh540 (Dec 09, 2008 9:36 pm) wademmiller (Dec 18, 2008 10:13 am) wademmiller (Jan 26, 2009 10:20 am) and 1 more...

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