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#1 of 111 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments by coupedncal

Mar 25, 2008 (11:12 pm)

Like some of you, I am eagerly awaiting arrival of BMW Diesel X5. I am sure the performance and mpg will turn out to be better than gas models. I am hoping mpg to be close to 25 highway. Any ideas when are we going to get more info? I am truly hoping there is no price jump for diesel engine.

#2 of 111 Re: 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments [coupedncal] by achonko

Apr 06, 2008 (4:16 pm)

Replying to: coupedncal (Mar 25, 2008 11:12 pm)
Be rest assured that the diesel engines will attract about $2500 premium over the petrol engines.
Fuel economy is certainly better than their petrol counterpart.
The performance numbers are marginally lower than their petrol counterpart as well, however you get the ability to tow more stuff because of the torque.

#3 of 111 Re: 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments [achonko] by coupedncal

Jul 02, 2008 (9:50 pm)

Replying to: achonko (Apr 06, 2008 4:16 pm)
We are now in July 2008 and there is still little news on this soon-to-arrive diesel X5. The press is expecting a debut in fall 2008.

#4 of 111 Re: 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments [coupedncal] by arrie

Jul 08, 2008 (6:54 am)

Replying to: coupedncal (Mar 25, 2008 11:12 pm)
When the Diesel arrives you can be sure you will be very pleasantly surprised. Diesel technology amongst European car makers is so advanced it is just unbelievable.
 
The gas prices in Europe has driven car engine development to a totally new heights compared to N.A. development. This has resulted extremely efficient diesel engines and with those BMW is one of the best. Well, all the German car makers are very good at this so it really don't matter which one you pick. Just a little info from a few years ago when Audi won the 24 h Le Mans race with a diesel engine car.
 
Pretty much all diesels on cars now are equipped with turbo charger and the way BMW has made it to work is that you would not know you are driving a diesel engine car if you did not hear it at all. Performance is just amazing.
 
As an example of fuel mileage I was so pleased to be able to do this by myself just last week. I was on a trip to southern Germany and had a BMW 3 series station wagon as a rental car. You know those auto bahns, with no speed limit areas. This car with a 2.0 L diesel with turbo went 220 km/h (137.5 MPH) speed and it had automatic transmission. It had a fuel consumption pointer, which I forgot to check at this speed probably because you want to keep your eyes on the road, but I did check it at 180 km/h (=112.5 MPH) speed. It was pointing at 6.5 L/100 km (=36 MPG).!!!!!
 
Now, X5 is an SUV, which means quite a lot wind resistance but with our driving speeds here in U.S. I don't think 25 MPG for it should be a problem assuming it comes with turbo charged engine, which should be a touch bigger than 2.0 L though.
 
Arrie

#5 of 111 Re: 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments [arrie] by gagrice

Jul 13, 2008 (9:12 pm)

Replying to: arrie (Jul 08, 2008 6:54 am)
The engine is a 3.0L inline 6 diesel. Someone on the diesel news board spotted one at the Post Office near Seattle WA. this week. I am also waiting to try one. I would expect it to be priced between the V6 and V8 as the Mercedes diesel SUVs are. The Mercedes ML320 CDI is only $1000 over the V6 and $7000 less than the V8. So they should be a comparable as the ML is a competitor to the X5

#6 of 111 Re: 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments [coupedncal] by kinjachris

Oct 29, 2008 (12:25 am)

Replying to: coupedncal (Mar 25, 2008 11:12 pm)
Spent some time talking to a bmw employee in L.A. who is getting the X5 diesel for himself as his next car and shared the following... thinks the cost will be a $2000 premium over a 3.0 gas. My sales rep says they are quoting $3000 over in training classes so this is probably cost and markup???. He drove one on a track and said it had all the umph of the 4.8 but not the high end power but pretty darn nice. Noise was not an issue. Expected MPG in the high 20s perhaps 25-27 not bad. So I'm sold on the idea of the engine but the issue is that it will sell at MSRP and have no real support expected for the residual and money factor so the lease quote was running well over $1100 for a "medium" equipped truck. I can get the same gas 3.0 for about $800 a month or less versus $1100+ I can pay for a lot of gas with the savings not to mention the diesel fuel is more per gallon as well. Frankly as much as I want to wait for the diesel, the cost differential makes it really hard to swallow.

#7 of 111 Re: 2009 X5 Diesel - Questions and Comments [kinjachris] by coupedncal

Oct 29, 2008 (11:18 pm)

Replying to: kinjachris (Oct 29, 2008 12:25 am)
Your points are well taken. Diesel has significant advantages but most sales are leases and lease terms are not expected to be favorable to this new model .... unless the economy continues to be soft and car companies give up and offer attractive terms. My ideal car would be a bare bone X5 with manual tranny and no electronic gimmics for a substantial price cut. One can hope.

#8 of 111 Dealer says X5 diesels are on the way by gagrice

Nov 10, 2008 (6:45 pm)

One of the San Diego dealers claim the X5 diesels are on the way. He wanted me to come in and make selection. I told him to let me know when they are ready for a test drive. I am going to make my decision based on several criteria between the Mercedes GL or ML320 CDi and the X5. I am not taking a short around the block test drive as I did with the Sequoia. I want to make sure the vehicle has the torque to pull my Interstate grade without downshifting as the gas guzzling Sequoia does.
 
I will NOT pay MSRP in this recession no matter how much I like the vehicle. The price of diesel should make dealing a bit easier. Though in San Diego today diesel and premium are very close in price. The other big advantage to diesel is 30% more range than the gas guzzler models. The X5 diesel has about 20% more torque than the V8 X5. The V8 is a lot more expensive than the V6 or the Diesel. No more gas guzzlers for me, ever.

#9 of 111 X5 xDrive 35d = $52,025 (including destination) by pkh540

Nov 11, 2008 (10:15 pm)

That's a $4100 premium OVER the X5 3.0 which is more than I am willing to pay. Even with the improved fuel economy how long is it take to recoup the premium cost? Sure there's the tax break (unconfirmed to be $1300) but we barely drive more than 8500 miles a year so it simply won't make financial sense.
 
Will wait to see what Audi decides to charge for the Q7 diesel and if all else fails... um, a MB-320CDI maybe? Nah, not desperate enough to buy a MB.

#10 of 111 Re: X5 xDrive 35d = $52,025 (including destination) [pkh540] by gagrice

Nov 12, 2008 (7:45 am)

Replying to: pkh540 (Nov 11, 2008 10:15 pm)
That's a $4100 premium OVER the X5 3.0 which is more than I am willing to pay
 
You get the performance of the V8 with better economy than their premium gas guzzling 6. And the much longer range is a big seller for me. Nothing compares to the torque of a diesel in the mountains.
 
Curious have you driven the X5 to compare with the MB ML? I would like to try them back to back before I decide. The Audi is just not very attractive to my eyes. The Mercedes is not great looking. The ML has the best comfort in the second row of any of the SUVs I have checked out. We have a good BMW dealer closer to us than any of the others. I am not going to give up my Sequoia until I get exactly what I want in a diesel SUV.

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