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#27 of 36 Re: I see your point [thegrocer]
Mar 19, 2008 (7:46 am)
Ehh well you got it half right sort of.
The original all aluminum Rover V8 did come from the fireball V8 used in Bucks and some oldsmobiles. When Rover bought the tooling and started using it in Range Rovers, SD-1 and many other vehicles it was a 3.5 liter that made between 150 and 180 hp in stock form. TVR got a hold of it not long after and made it a Screamer.
The AJ-V8 shares nothing with the Aston Martin V-12s or the Duratec V6s as both of them are 60 degree angle engines and the AJ-V8 is a 90 degree engine developed in house by Jaguar.
Aston does have an engine loosely based on the AJ-V8 in the V8 Vantage but it has a dry sump and is a 4.3 liter.
#28 of 36 Re: I see your point [british_rover]
Mar 19, 2008 (7:50 am)
Does anyone else know that the designer responsible for the Pontiac Aztek is the one who designed the newest generation of the Corvette (C6). My question is this: How the hell did that guy still have a job after drawing the Aztek???? The sheer fact that car even make it to production is a great example to the idiots who USED to be running Detroit. Thank god that era is over with.
#29 of 36 Re: Ugly Cars [supra4]
Jun 04, 2008 (12:54 pm)
i wouldn't be caught in a Pontiac Aztec or a Subaru Tribeca. I think the smart car is fine in europe but i dont think America is ready for it yet. i would ride my bike before i was seen in a Toyota anything. Sorry to all Toyota fans but i am an ALL AMERICAN BOY.
#30 of 36 Re: I see your point [auditt311]
Jun 04, 2008 (12:57 pm)
I DEFINETLY AGREE WITH YOU! it is a scare on the face of the americav automobile industry specificly pontiac. But i think now with some new employees working for GM they are headed in mostly the right direction.
#31 of 36 Re: I see your point [auditt311]
Jun 04, 2008 (1:30 pm)
The Aztek is one of the poorest-designed vehicles in the history of the automotive universe. A friend of mine is dying to buy a beat-up used one to drive into buildings and take off road.
I would also mention the Edsel and I can't think of the name but there was an Isuzu SUV on the market some years back that had the spare tire embedded in the rear. Just awful.
#32 of 36 Re: I see your point [mikedrud]
Jun 04, 2008 (1:39 pm)
#33 of 36 Re: I see your point [h4ck54w]
Jun 04, 2008 (1:47 pm)
I've seen pictures online (http://rides.trucktrend.com/ride/1003788/vehicrosswilly/2001/isuzu/vehicross/ph- otos/2.html) but they don't do justice to just how ugly this vehicle was. Just heinous.
#34 of 36 Re: I see your point [chung]
Jun 05, 2008 (9:35 am)
If we still had the designers from the 1960's the US auto makers would probably doing a lot better. Does anyone here remeber Bill Mitchell??!
I personally think there are great Amercan car designs... the cts, the corvette, the flex, the malibu, the aura...foreign makers have some of the ugliest cars too. the corolla, currently any subaru, mercedes r-class, camry, tundra, the list goes on...
#35 of 36 Re: I see your point [mikedrud]
Jun 05, 2008 (11:02 am)
The Vehicross might have been ugly but it was capable. There are a couple of them in my off-road club and they do very well off-road plus they have decent gas mileage and they handle well on road for a vehicle of that type.
#36 of 36 Re: I see your point [british_rover]
Jun 05, 2008 (11:19 am)
I hear you, Rover. I had an Isuzu pick-up for 10 (!) years and the clutch never went out once, and I live in L.A. -- stop-and-go traffic, hills everywhere, etc. They made very reliable vehicles during the 1990s and even into the early 2000s.
But the Vehicross is still butt-ugly.