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What is wrong with you "smarty" by greenacura
Jun 22, 2009 (5:45 pm)
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So what exactly do you drive? I am basing this on my experience with the 2009 maxima. It's not comparable to a near luxury car such as the TL. Sure the maxima is much better looking but it's all in the details and the maxima is clearly not comparable to the 2007 TL when it comes to the details. I leased the maxima because I thought it looked great and the price was right, basically $8,000 off sticker. If they were in such high demand, why is the car so highly discounted? It actually leased less than the 2009 Accord EXL. After 5 TL's I was willing to try something new especially since the new TL isn't exactly good looking. Well, I clearly got what I paid for, the maxima is great compared to the accord but the TL would have been a superior car. Something else that concerns me is now I am driving a car that attract followers like your self. This forum is an exchange of ideas and auto experiences and costs. Name calling such as what you did in the email above clearly isn't what the website is about.
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Re: What is wrong with you "smarty" [greenacura] by flightnurse
Jun 22, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: greenacura (Jun 22, 2009 5:45 pm)

FIrst off some regions sell more of a certain car then others, that is why when you search a on a web site they ask for your zip code.
 
Second, I disgree with you, the Max is a near luxury car and it does go up against the TL in comparisons. Remember the MAX and TL are both front drivers. You can not put a TL up with a BMW or G37 sedan...
 
Tony
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Re: What is wrong with you "smarty" [greenacura] by draz2
Jun 23, 2009 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: greenacura (Jun 22, 2009 5:45 pm)

The TL is, indeed, in a class above the Maxima. I test drove both before I bought the TL and I have to tell you, it wasn't even close. The Maxima felt and looked "cheap" inside, the nav screen was pathetically low resolution, the tech features weren't even in the same league as the TL and the CVT transmission felt like a loose rubber band around a pulley (which is essentially what it is). Oh, and the engine was intrusively loud under acceleration. Now for its good points...it's a nice looking car from the outside and its steering, brakes and suspension were excellent. The trunk is nicely shaped and reasonably spacious anthough the overall interior didn't feel as large as the TL. The leather in the TL is better and the audio system in the TL is quite simply state of the art. The Maxima's wasn't even in the same league. So, for about the same money I went with the clearly superior car. Oh, and because this is a purchase for me, resale value, depreciation and relaibility were important variable and here, again, the TL was tops in its class.
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I agree by greenacura
Jun 23, 2009 (8:31 am)
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I agree with draz2 on all the items except the audio system. I think the maxima was superior in this area. While shopping around, the maxima was always about $125 -140 less per month (on a 3 year lease) than the TL so I took a chance with the maxima. For me, the maxima short falls were worth saving the $4,500+ over the lease. I'm hoping the maxima will grow on me more, right now I think my old 2007 TL was superior & I would have bought it if the residual value wasn't so high. I hope I feel the same way about the maxima 3 years from now.
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Re: I agree [greenacura] by draz2
Jun 23, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: greenacura (Jun 23, 2009 8:31 am)

>>>all the items except the audio system. I think the maxima was superior in this area.<<< Are you sure you're talking about the '09 TL with tech? The one that gets you the superb 440 watt ELS audio system? I came from a Lexus with the Mark Levinson adio system.And while that was great, the ELS system in the TL is simply in a different league. It's almost as good as an audiophile home system (and while clearly nothing in a car environment can approach a good home audiophile system, the ELS comes darn close). I agree though, if I was leasing I might have gone a different direction as leases on the TL are not that great. As a purchase, however, I'm convinced the TL is grossly underpriced.
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Audio Systems by greenacura
Jun 23, 2009 (8:47 am)
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I was comparing the Maxima to the 2009 TL Audio system. Maybe I didn't get enough time to fully appreciate the '09 TL Audio. I can say that Maxima is superior to audio in my old 2007 TL. I also agree that the 2009 TL is going to have much better resale value than the 2009 Maxima. Just curious draz2, what made you leave Lexus. It seems to me that the Lexus people never change brands. The ES is a fine car but wasn't leasing competively. I had thought about purchasing a used ES with nav and Mark Levinson audio. Lexus has a great pre-owned warranty but the dealers didn't have any used in the color & options I wanted.
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TL Front End by poodog13
Jun 23, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Add me to the group that find the front-end redesign of the TL a complete deal-breaker. While I drive an 07 Maxima, I really wanted the 07 TL but could not talk the price down far enough. Had always planned on going back to the TL for my next car.
 
Now, every time I see an 09 TL on the road, I just cringe. I keep looking for the head of an 18th century Frenchman to stick out from under the guillotine on the front of the car.
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Re: TL Front End [poodog13] by greenacura
Jun 23, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: poodog13 (Jun 23, 2009 9:56 am)

How has your 2007 Maxima been? Good reliability? Has the maint. costs been reasonable? I found my '07 Acura TL was very expensive to maintain. Regarding the 2009 TL, sure the front end is terrible, but I didn't even like the look from the side or rear. It is a terrible design, I wonder if Acura will make a change soon.
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Re: Audio Systems [greenacura] by draz2
Jun 24, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: greenacura (Jun 23, 2009 8:47 am)

I left the Lexus 'family' after three years with the '07 ES350 because I wanted something that was a lot more fun to drive. The ES was a wonderful car for what it was....which is nothing more than a conveyance. I wanted something with better braking, a more linear linkage between engine and transmission and a tighter, more communicative suspension. The TL fit that bill perfectly. And I'm an acknowledged gadget freak so I immediately fell in love with all the wonderful tech features in the TL as well. As to the front end of the car, I love it. I think it looks distinctive, elegant and aggressive (in a good way). Do any of you remember the public's response when the CTS or BMW's Chris Bangle designs were introduced? I do. Universal outrage and disgust don't even come close to describing the reaction from the automobile cogniscenti. What is their reaction now? And how have sales been for BMW and the CTS?
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Re: TL Front End [greenacura] by poodog13
Jun 24, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: greenacura (Jun 23, 2009 10:29 am)

How has your 2007 Maxima been? Good reliability? Has the maint. costs been reasonable?
 
Maintenance has not been too bad. I went with the SL rather than the SE specifically to cut down on some of the maintenance costs, particularly the tires (SL's have slightly wider profile, a bit closer to mainstream tire size, and therefore cheaper to replace). I had to have the armrest console cover and the bracket securing the driver's visor replaced due to breaks in plastic latches, but they were done under warranty and I now know to be a bit more careful with these components. Brake replacements were a bit of a shock but the higher end brakes on performance sedans always are.
 
The only other large maintenance costs have been the recommended 15k incremental maintenance packages. I made the mistake at 15k of not asking the dealership exactly what they included in their 15k maint plan, and turns out it was more than the factory recommendation. Scaled back to recommended services only at 30k, and started to do some of the basic stuff myself (in-cabin filters) at 45k now that the car is out of warranty.

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