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#483 of 681 Fender Flares by out4cat Dec 08, 2008 (4:04 pm)
In continuing the message above, here is a list of some cars that do have flares. There was no need to leave the Nissan family for some of them. NIssan Titan Nissan Armada Infinity QX-56 Nissan Altima (much more tastefully done because the rear fender flare is the leading design element that is not lost in a sea of other elements like on the Maxima) Toyota Highlander Outgoing Subaru Forester GMC Trail Blazer (I think it is an older model). 1985 BMW M-3   And the hood wave design is right off of the 1997 Ford taurus, yes a FORD had that wave bump design on its hood back then.
#484 of 681 Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [cyberpunk] by habitat1 Dec 09, 2008 (10:06 am)
Replying to: cyberpunk (Dec 05, 2008 5:01 pm) I've said it previously in this thread and I'll say it again - this car is a hoot to drive. The performance is definitely there. There is nothing wrong with the CVT transmission. I suspect I'll never buy a car without a CVT transmission, from here on out, and I fully believe that the CVT transmission is the future for automatic transmissions. But if you want more transmission control, you've got many options with this car.   I guess when it comes to "hoots" to each their own owl. And as far as "many options (for transmission control)", are you referring to the various frequencies with which I can hum fake shifts?   I could try to find common ground and say there is nothing intrinsically "wrong" with a CVT transmission - as long as it was installed in a Prius or some other vehicle designed to get you from point a to point b as efficiently and unexcitedly as possible. But a few additional drives behind the wheel of a 2009 "4-DSC" labeled Maxima continues to leave me with the feeling that a CVT is just a horrific decision and embarassment for Nissan. It's sportier than a Buick, but not by much.   I may be susceptible to being called old fashioned for not considering the latest and greatest dual clutch PDC transmission from Porsche or Ferrari's F1 SMG acceptable alternatives to a 6-speed manual in a sports car. And someday I might change my tune on those. But, please, don't suggest that Nissan's rubber band CVT is the "future" of transmissions for so-called sports sedans. If that's the case, screw it. Just cut off my do-dads and give me an electric hybrid so I don't have any false pretenses.   This is just my opinion. If you are having a hoot driving a CVT equiped Maxima, good for you. It certainly sounds like you do way too much driving not to be happy with whatever you have and I sincerely wish you many more miles of happiness.   P.S. On second thought, leave my do-dads intact. My wife doesn't have any and she wouldn't opt for an automatic CVT either. So it must not be a do-dad thing. Replies to this message: out4cat (Dec 09, 2008 4:08 pm) cyberpunk (Dec 10, 2008 9:57 am)
#485 of 681 Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [habitat1] by out4cat Dec 09, 2008 (4:08 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 09, 2008 10:06 am) I was trying to be kind to Cyberpunk and not even address his preference for the CVT, but you took that on in a great way. I am still not in love with the rest of the car either.   By the way though, I know that you are a fan of the Acura TL, and in some way so was I until I saw the 2009 front grill. I am disappointed because the rest of the car is really great but the front grill has to go. Smartly so, our local Acura dealer has started to charge customers 200.00 for painting the grill body color, it helps a great deal although they don't paint the entire grill, just the shield part of it. I would suggest the entire grill be painted for a better look on the car. My second gripe is that the interior trim is only available in a metallic finish, I have not seen an option for wood trim for 09. The cold metal trim is just not my preference.   CVT and HOOT in the same sentence, just not right.....
#486 of 681 Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [habitat1] by cyberpunk Dec 10, 2008 (9:57 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 09, 2008 10:06 am) It certainly sounds like you do way too much driving not to be happy with whatever you have and I sincerely wish you many more miles of happiness.   You found our common ground! I couldn't agree more. Way too many friggin' miles.
#487 of 681 CVT by carnut35 Dec 11, 2008 (7:09 pm)
I think you guys who have driven the CVT and then put it down very badly are doing it an injustice. Reading the earlier posts, it takes a while to get used to; certainly more than a test drive--everyone knows that and some people accept it and come to love it. And look at the numbers: I think I saw 6.2 seconds 0 to 60; that's class leading fast, and probably a good bit faster than whatever you're driving now. And on top of it, they supposedly last a long, long time. I don't own it as I'm not buying this year, but if I was buying I'd go for it and stop worrying that it didn't feel quite like my current car. OK, I'm sure I'll get flamed now but I think that needed to be said. I think the guys who have been driving it for a few weeks are more qualified to determine whether it's a good one. Flame on now... Replies to this message: habitat1 (Dec 16, 2008 7:00 am) tracguy (Dec 16, 2008 12:51 pm)
#488 of 681 Happy Holidays by carnut35 Dec 11, 2008 (7:12 pm)
Must be nice to have a new Maxima for the holidays. Having shopped the Maxima, '09 TL, and Mazda6 before deciding not to buy, I think the looks of the Maxima are better than the other 2--it's pretty awesome... The old Maxima's were so ugly even a mother couldn't love them, but this one is a huge improvement... Replies to this message: out4cat (Dec 12, 2008 3:37 pm)
#489 of 681 Re: Happy Holidays [carnut35] by out4cat Dec 12, 2008 (3:37 pm)
Replying to: carnut35 (Dec 11, 2008 7:12 pm) Carnut, there is no flaming necessary, this blog is about sharing experiences and opinions. You opinion deserves the same amount of respect that all ours do. That being said, I am the proud owner of an 07 Maxima SE, the one you call ugly, I beg to differ with you and find my car quite attractive, distinctive, and sporty. I can also tell you that I have driven this car with the CVT (6 speed) for over 10k miles and cannot get used to the darn thing, it guzzles more gas than my previous 04 Maxima (5 speed auto no CVT) with the same engine that had 10 more HP and 1 gear less. It completely numbs the rush of a gearshift when fully accelerating and I lost a race to the 06 model because the darn thing took to long thinking about when to shift and even when to wake up off the line. Oh by the way I did not think the 04 was ugly either, to each his own. Although I would not call the new 09 Maxima ugly, I do find its design to be overcrowded with design cues and elements. It is like if the design team simply took a bit from a bunch of cars and threw it together and came up with the 09 Maxima. There is so much going on forward of the A pillar that the design makes me dizzy, the Altima trunk is the complete opposite of the front end, just a plain trunk. I wish all who have one many happy miles driving it, but it is by no means a home-run in design. The prior model, the one all of you hate, at least was designed with the Lexus GS in mind, this one is more Camry/Lexus ES-like. Oh and by the way, since you saw the new TL, it is not too far off on the design of the previous Maxima, right down to the roof metallic rails and rear buttress-type window and C-pillar design. Happy motoring to all and a Merry Christmas!!! Enjoy whatever vehicle you drive and do so safely!!
#490 of 681 Oops--mistatement on my part by carnut35 Dec 12, 2008 (10:24 pm)
I wrote my earlier msg quickly and right after I let it fly I realized my misstatement. I consider the newer Maximas, including the 2004 - 2008 version, very attractive. The 2 prior versions I did not care for at all, and many in the automotive press did not care for their looks either. So out4cat, I like your car, although I like the new one better (for looks).   As for the CVT, it has been refined for the '09 compared to the prior version, and a number of the owners earlier on in the posts got used to it and liked it a lot. So I'm really speaking to what people have said on the new version of that transmission. Same goes for acceleration--I'm speaking to the new one. C&D is painstakingly precise in their acceleration tests, and they clock the '09 at 5.8 seconds to 60 mph, which blows away most others in the class. They also make positive comments about the CVT in this model.   Sorry for not being clearer in my previous post. I'm sorry about your slower car, but the '09 is clearly very fast as rated by professional testers. Perhaps you could unload yours and buy something you like; I'd hate to be driving something I didn't like, especially as a car enthusiast... Good luck. Replies to this message: out4cat (Dec 13, 2008 7:00 am)
#491 of 681 Re: Oops--mistatement on my part [carnut35] by out4cat Dec 13, 2008 (7:00 am)
Replying to: carnut35 (Dec 12, 2008 10:24 pm) Interesting point, I should just test drive the 09 and see what the new CVT feels like, I will do that. I am trying to love the new 09 design but have not seen one yet that really catches my eye. I was skeptical even about the 04 when I got it but one day I went to the local dealer and saw one in a new color "Coral Sand" and instantly fell in love with the car. It even had the Elite Package with 4 heated bucket seats and a rear console with ice bucket and cup holders, I was sold signed on the dotted line and loved every minute of every drive. I later realized that perhaps buying the 1st year production was not wise because of squeaks/rattles and a shimmy in the steering that appeared intermittently, but as far as the look of the car, I loved it. My new 07 does not have the Elite, could not find one with it but it is still a nice looking car and I do love it, especially when it is just detailed. As I begin to see more 09s on the road I imagine that I will begin to like it more but the trouble again is, I have not seen one in a color that makes me fall in love with it. Most dealers only carry variations of grey and the few blue/maroon/green ones all have black seats which I HATE. So far I am drawn towards the Tuscan Sun exterior color with Cafe Latte leather seats, have not seen one on the road yet. I can also tell you from experience that it is a difficult color to keep clean especially here in the north with no garage and cold winters. I am puzzled by the variety in color availability in cheaper Nissans but the flagship is restricted to a sea of grey tones and only 3 colors that are not. More to come when I test drive the 09 as per your suggestion, wow 290 HP, I may never give the darn thing back to the dealer.

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