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60/40 Back seat by mackfam
Dec 02, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Is it true that the back seats fold down on the Sv but not the SV with the premium pkg? Thanks
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Re: 60/40 Back seat [mackfam] by tracguy
Dec 02, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: mackfam (Dec 02, 2008 9:05 am)

Correct. The sport package or the luxury package only offer a pass thru the width of the armrest. The solid seatback makes for a more ridgid body.
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Re: 60/40 Back seat [mackfam] by out4cat
Dec 02, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: mackfam (Dec 02, 2008 9:05 am)

Yes it is all part of Nissan's reverse logic. The more options you pay for, the more restricted your vehicle becomes.
- Check the Premium/Sport option and:
  No pass through to trunk
  Less color options for interior
  The nice looking black-tone interior trim is gone and you get some ugly silver trim or wood-like trim that looks like it is adhesive wallpaper placed over the plastic pieces.
  Not to mention the fact that you get no added horsepower or torque with the higher
  price packages so in essence even the plain (cloth seat) S version with less options
  therefore less weight can probably beat the SV-S or SV-P to 60 with identical power.
 1 thing that just threw be back for a loop is that with the S or P package you only get one outside mirror with dim feature, the previous model at least had both outside mirrors with this feature. By the way it is a great feature to keep the glaring lights of cars in adjacent lanes from blinding the driver.
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15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max by cyberpunk
Dec 05, 2008 (5:01 pm)
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I've now got 15,000 miles on my '09 Maxima since the end of June when I bought it.
 
It's been 15,000 very enjoyable miles! Over the previous months, I've taken a number of 1,000 mile road trips, and I've done quite a bit of city driving, and I've never regretted my decision for a moment. This car is proving to be exactly what I had expected.
 
I've said it previously in this thread and I'll say it again - this car is a hoot to drive. The performance is definitely there. There is nothing wrong with the CVT transmission. I suspect I'll never buy a car without a CVT transmission, from here on out, and I fully believe that the CVT transmission is the future for automatic transmissions. But if you want more transmission control, you've got many options with this car.
 
As for the styling queue - yes, the interior looks very much like it came from an Infiniti. Nothing wrong with that, and it only makes manufacturing sense for Nissan to do this. Nobody I've interacted with has ever considered this a negative.
 
As for the external styling queues, if one were to look around, one would notice that the aggressive flairs are showing up everywhere. Much like when BMW re-worked their cars a few years ago, some people moaned about it. In short order, everybody else caught on and now cars everywhere take their sheet-metal queues from BMW's latest designs. So too, the '09 Maxima's flairs are starting to show up, and I think the look is very classy. In fact, cars have long had flairs - it's a very traditional look - and Nissan is bringing it back in spades.
 
Check out the new Audi A5, for example: http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5.html.
 
If those side flairs don't look straight off the '09 Maxima, I don't know what does...and Audi has traditionally been as 'classic' as it comes.
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Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [cyberpunk] by out4cat
Dec 07, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: cyberpunk (Dec 05, 2008 5:01 pm)

Cyber:
Writing about reasons to justify and live with your decision to purchase of the 09 Maxima is one thing, but stretching it to somehow relate its design to the new A5 is way out in left field. I suggest you visit an Audi dealer and look closely at this non-quirky, timeless design; there are NO flares. Even in the pictures that you sent out, what you see is the linear line of the front fender curving upwards to soften the wheel arch design (this is in NO-way a flare, check it from this angle http://p.webwombat.com.au/motoring/images/audi-a5-1-big.jpg). Audi is the one German car company that has abstained from quirky design elements (like the new S class, and outgoing 7 series) and instead continues to bring out timeless, simple straight forward lines in its vehicles without the carvings, flaring, waves, and bulges of other companies. If you look at the 09 BMW 7 series, they too are getting back to basics, wonder what Benz will do with their S class now? back to the drawing board. Funny how much cleaner the C-Class design is.
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Fender Flares by out4cat
Dec 08, 2008 (4:04 pm)
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In continuing the message above, here is a list of some cars that do have flares. There was no need to leave the Nissan family for some of them.
  • NIssan Titan
  • Nissan Armada
  • Infinity QX-56
  • Nissan Altima (much more tastefully done because the rear fender flare is the leading design element that is not lost in a sea of other elements like on the Maxima)
  • Toyota Highlander
  • Outgoing Subaru Forester
  • GMC Trail Blazer (I think it is an older model).
  • 1985 BMW M-3
     
    And the hood wave design is right off of the 1997 Ford taurus, yes a FORD had that wave bump design on its hood back then.
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    Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [cyberpunk] by habitat1
    Dec 09, 2008 (10:06 am)
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    Replying to: cyberpunk (Dec 05, 2008 5:01 pm)

    I've said it previously in this thread and I'll say it again - this car is a hoot to drive. The performance is definitely there. There is nothing wrong with the CVT transmission. I suspect I'll never buy a car without a CVT transmission, from here on out, and I fully believe that the CVT transmission is the future for automatic transmissions. But if you want more transmission control, you've got many options with this car.
     
    I guess when it comes to "hoots" to each their own owl. And as far as "many options (for transmission control)", are you referring to the various frequencies with which I can hum fake shifts?
     
    I could try to find common ground and say there is nothing intrinsically "wrong" with a CVT transmission - as long as it was installed in a Prius or some other vehicle designed to get you from point a to point b as efficiently and unexcitedly as possible. But a few additional drives behind the wheel of a 2009 "4-DSC" labeled Maxima continues to leave me with the feeling that a CVT is just a horrific decision and embarassment for Nissan. It's sportier than a Buick, but not by much.
     
    I may be susceptible to being called old fashioned for not considering the latest and greatest dual clutch PDC transmission from Porsche or Ferrari's F1 SMG acceptable alternatives to a 6-speed manual in a sports car. And someday I might change my tune on those. But, please, don't suggest that Nissan's rubber band CVT is the "future" of transmissions for so-called sports sedans. If that's the case, screw it. Just cut off my do-dads and give me an electric hybrid so I don't have any false pretenses.
     
    This is just my opinion. If you are having a hoot driving a CVT equiped Maxima, good for you. It certainly sounds like you do way too much driving not to be happy with whatever you have and I sincerely wish you many more miles of happiness.
     
    P.S. On second thought, leave my do-dads intact. My wife doesn't have any and she wouldn't opt for an automatic CVT either. So it must not be a do-dad thing.
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    Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [habitat1] by out4cat
    Dec 09, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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    Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 09, 2008 10:06 am)

    I was trying to be kind to Cyberpunk and not even address his preference for the CVT, but you took that on in a great way. I am still not in love with the rest of the car either.
     
    By the way though, I know that you are a fan of the Acura TL, and in some way so was I until I saw the 2009 front grill. I am disappointed because the rest of the car is really great but the front grill has to go. Smartly so, our local Acura dealer has started to charge customers 200.00 for painting the grill body color, it helps a great deal although they don't paint the entire grill, just the shield part of it. I would suggest the entire grill be painted for a better look on the car. My second gripe is that the interior trim is only available in a metallic finish, I have not seen an option for wood trim for 09. The cold metal trim is just not my preference.
     
    CVT and HOOT in the same sentence, just not right.....
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    Re: 15,000 miles so far in the '09 Max [habitat1] by cyberpunk
    Dec 10, 2008 (9:57 am)
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    Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 09, 2008 10:06 am)

    It certainly sounds like you do way too much driving not to be happy with whatever you have and I sincerely wish you many more miles of happiness.
     
    You found our common ground! I couldn't agree more. Way too many friggin' miles.
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    CVT by carnut35
    Dec 11, 2008 (7:09 pm)
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    I think you guys who have driven the CVT and then put it down very badly are doing it an injustice. Reading the earlier posts, it takes a while to get used to; certainly more than a test drive--everyone knows that and some people accept it and come to love it. And look at the numbers: I think I saw 6.2 seconds 0 to 60; that's class leading fast, and probably a good bit faster than whatever you're driving now. And on top of it, they supposedly last a long, long time. I don't own it as I'm not buying this year, but if I was buying I'd go for it and stop worrying that it didn't feel quite like my current car. OK, I'm sure I'll get flamed now but I think that needed to be said. I think the guys who have been driving it for a few weeks are more qualified to determine whether it's a good one. Flame on now...

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