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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [aviboy97] by sanjaysdca
Nov 17, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 17, 2008 9:35 am)

Not to add to your confusion I would throw Infiniti G35 in the mix
 
In my mind it is a superior car to either Max or Mazda6..
And with all the incentives/model year clearance a reasonably loaded can be had for 30K.
 
If you have to have a FWD car then consider Acura TL...an loaded 2008 (Not 2009) can be had for under 30K as well.
 
If I were to choose between Mazda6 and Max. I would go for Max as the interior feels much more luxurious. CVT takes some getting use to...Max does ask for premium fuel..
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [aviboy97] by traindriver
Nov 17, 2008 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 17, 2008 9:35 am)

Personally, I don't put the 6 in the same class as the Maxima. In my eyes, the 6 would best be compared to the Altima, Camry, and Accord. The Maxima is better compared to the Acura TL and maybe the VW Passat. The 6 seems like a good value when compared to the Altima, Accord, and Camry. A Maxima SV with the options you mentioned stickers much higher than 30k and, though discounts seem to be available, will still be several grand more than the Mazda 6 you have described.
 
I have had a Millenia, Tribute, and a B4000. The Millenia and the truck were great vehicles; the Tribute was so-so at best. Overall I think Mazdas are good cars. You seem to lean toward the 6 -- what do the inlaws think? I would give them enough info for them to make their own decision. I'm not sure I would want to be the scapegoat in a situation like this....
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [traindriver] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: traindriver (Nov 17, 2008 10:52 am)

I'm more familiar with the Mazda6 then the 09 Maxima, so I can speak of confidence in what it offers. I am not very familiar with the 09 Maxima. I am very familiar with the 04-08 Maxima, in which the 09 Mazda6 IMO is better.
 
My opinion does not matter, something that I have already expressed to them. I will not give them my opinion once I form one after we look at the Maxima either. I don't want them to buy the Mazda6 just because I work for Mazda. Would I like it? Sure! But, it's their car, not mine. I know the Max is a fine vehicle and always has been.
 
In reality, the 09 Mazda6 does compare very well to the 09 Maxima. In actuality, the Mazda6 is bigger in almost every area. Refinement, quality and featured content on paper look very similar. Again, I have not sat in nor driven an 09 Maxima, but, the quality is the 6 is better then their 04 Maxima.
 
My father-in-law used to own a CX-7, but traded it for an 09 Forester due to better FE. He has an extensive commute, and the CX-7 does not get great FE. My mother-in-law is the primary driver of the Maxima, and does not drive very much. It only has about 40K on it in in 4 years of ownership. He absolutely loved everything the CX-7 had in terns of drive, content, and performance. I think he liked it better then the 04 Max.
 
I have no doubt the Mazda6 will be a great car for a long time. The engine / tranny are from the CX-9 and built in Japan. There has been virtually no power train issues with the CX-9.
 
I have also brought up the Infiniti G as well. This is not my decision, and I really do not want to cloud their mind with suggesting several vehicles. The way they are is they pick a couple cars they like, or are familiar with and go from there.
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [aviboy97] by tracguy
Nov 17, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 17, 2008 9:35 am)

I was also looking at the Mazda6 but I did end up buying a 09 Maxima (SV premium / tech)a couple of weeks ago. I liked the Mazda but I thought the Max was a little plusher, liked the music box hard drive and the nav system. The Ipod integration is first rate also. I also like the Max's styling a little more than the Mazda. Premium is required, not suggested. I'm appears I'm getting about 23mpg (city, freeway short trips) but only have 500 miles on it so take these numbers with a grain of salt. Actualy I think the 09 Max is actually a little smaller than the 08.
 
If I hadn't gotten a good deal I would have gone down the street and bought a Mazda6. I like the blindspot monitor and the the fit and finish are good.
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [tracguy] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: tracguy (Nov 17, 2008 12:53 pm)

Premium is required not recommended? I was unaware of that.
 
It's good to hear the opinion of one who has driven both. Thanks.
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [aviboy97] by out4cat
Nov 17, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 17, 2008 9:35 am)

Look very closely at the new Maxima, just saw one on the sales floor at my usual dealership and some of the panels on the interior can be moved with low pressure applied by hand. Also the sport package seats had uneven cushioning on the passenger seat which gave the leather a wrinkle look on the right side of the center bolster. The styling is quirky to say the least, in front of the A pillar there are so many styling cues that it actually crowds the overall design. From the A pillar to the C pillar it is plain Jane look of the Camry/Lexus ES and then the rear window down to the trunk lid is all Altima. The side fender flares are right out of the Titan/QX 56 trucks so to make a long story short, the design is just over crowded to get attention, definitely not a timeless look. I can't even begin to tell you what a disappointment the CVT transmission is. The interior is OK, nothing strikingly unique there except for a copy-cat dash from the Infinity.
Although sleek and unique, the design of the Mazda 6 is more timeless, less crowded, and definitely not quirky. No CVT is a big plus and even the one I saw in light blue the other day caught my eye, definitely a futuristic sleek look similar to the MB CLS and new Passat CC.
Remember the Maxima is a 35K car mostly because it is Japanese yet the thing is built in the U.S. The Mazda is way lower in price. The HP difference as you pointed out is not that big a deal and with the CVT on the Max, getting the HP to perform can be quite a task.
I would suggest a look at the Pontiac G8 V6 but who knows what will happen to GM in the near future.
Bottom line, picking a car is certainly based on different subjective preferences and it is a decision to be made by no 1 but the actual buyer/leasee.
Good luck either way.
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [out4cat] by ahossa1
Nov 18, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: out4cat (Nov 17, 2008 4:50 pm)

I have to disagree with you on"too crowded to get attention." This car is a head turner. I drive a lot as a salesman along with other people and I have never heard a negative comment about the looks of this car. Most people go Wow, a nice car.
Another point I'll give ya, it does look like an Altima from the rear. I also love to drive behind this car at nights. It just looks impressive.
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Re: 2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 [ahossa1] by out4cat
Nov 18, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: ahossa1 (Nov 18, 2008 4:08 pm)

Perhaps I mis-spoke, I meant the design is too crowded with styling cues. I agree that it draws attention, but the awe may be short lived just like anything that is too flashy. A straight forward and timeless design does not need to have so many curves, creases, bulges and bumps, it just needs to be a good design.
Yeah those tail lights are pretty cool, I agree, as are the 19" inch wheels with the sport package. I am floored by those who pay $2,300 for the sport package and then swap out the wheels, especially for chrome ones. Considering that there is no performance improvement from checking off the sport package, and that the wheels kind of make the distinction form the other models, changing the wheels defeats the purpose of paying the additional $2,300.00. But to each his own, I repeat that buying a car is based mostly on subjective reasons, just read the range of comments on this blog and it becomes obvious
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Maxima impression by jayrider
Nov 19, 2008 (7:47 am)
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Just looked at an 09 murano with the premium package at the dealer. Didn't sit in one because I'm not in the market but like to speculate. Drove over to the bmw dealer and looked the 5 series over. For 20k difference the maxima looks like a sweet deal. I know, different cars , different ambience etc but feature for feature what a deal.
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Re: Maxima impression [jayrider] by sanjaysdca
Nov 19, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: jayrider (Nov 19, 2008 7:47 am)

If "feature" is the only consideration then nothing beats Genesis
Drives decent too

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