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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [sanjaysdca] by habitat1
Sep 18, 2008 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Sep 17, 2008 12:03 pm)

Thanks for the response - and referral to carsdirect. I haven't used them in the past, but will certainly consider them as an info source in the future.
 
Unfortunately (or not) it appears that economic conditions are better in my zip code (20815) than yours. The prices on the Acuras and Mercedes are $2-3k higher here in the DC area than in Southern California. But there are still some impressive deals.
 
Regarding the E350 at $45k or less loaded, that is not my first choice in a luxury performance sedan, but at $10k under MSRP, seems hard to beat as the best deal. The carsdirect price for a 535i is full MSRP. I can get a 535i $1k under US invoice by cutting a deal in PA and doing a European Delivery, but that isn't comparable to going down the street and buying from your neighborhood dealer. As for Mercedes reliability, I know it's only anecdotal, but I have at least 4-5 friends and business assocaites who have logged 150k+ miles on E-class's without any major issues. One bought a new E320 Bluetech last fall and his two kids have the previous E-classes, one of which hit 300k miles recently. Other than the fact that diesel is 15% higher than premium gas in our area, he is pretty happy with 25 mpg in the city and 35+ mpg on a recent 1,000 mile roundtrip to Kiawah Island with 2 (large) passengers and 3 sets of golf clubs in the trunk.
 
All of this doesn't bode well for Maxima dealers trying to get full MSRP (i.e. $37k+ ). When a Maxima is effectively priced halfway between a TL and a E-class and approaching some other true luxury cars and RWD sport sedans, even the most loyal Nissan customers have to question the prudence of spending that much. I suspect that with the economy the way it is, 2009 Maxima's will soon be selling for under invoice.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [habitat1] by traindriver
Sep 18, 2008 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 18, 2008 4:42 am)

2009 Maxima's will soon be selling for under invoice.
 
Sooner than you might expect.
 
teamdirect.com (Atlanta)
dobbsdirect.com (Memphis)
fitzmall.com (PA)
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [tom17] by sanjaysdca
Sep 18, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: tom17 (Sep 17, 2008 6:34 pm)

Everytime Merc revamps the model completely the o;d one sells at a steep discount.
 
Last time when they rewamped S class the outgoing S class was selling for 20K off MSRP.
New 2010 E350 is scheduled to arrive in March 09...My guess is we will see discounts begning January
 
Sanjay
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [habitat1] by sanjaysdca
Sep 18, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 18, 2008 4:42 am)

Few of my friends have used carsdirect and have been happy with no nonsense shopping experience.
 
So Cal seems to be doing well...There is lot more competition...and people, I believe, like to show off more then east coast.
 
As they say So Cal is famous for
Beaches, Cars, and Structured Bodies.
 
OUT4CAT: Max is a beauty...dont get me wrong.
Take good care of that VQ engine...Its very sensitive to gasoline you put in...My 2000 I30 needs either Cheveron or Shell Gas. Else Check engine light comes on...
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [traindriver] by go_mdx1
Sep 18, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: traindriver (Sep 18, 2008 5:56 am)

Yep, you can get close to $4k off MSRP - if you look hard enough. Dobbs Nissan had great prices on the internet. However, when I started to negotiate, they added on "required" extra options (pin stripes, protection packages, nitrogen tires, etc..) and much higher dealer prep fees than the other guys.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [go_mdx1] by out4cat
Sep 18, 2008 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: go_mdx1 (Sep 18, 2008 4:15 pm)

When you consider a brand new model hitting the streets and in less than 3 months already at 4k discounts, sales must not be as expected. Usually new models go for over sticker in the northern Va area, not with this car.
I am still waiting to see on in Tuscan Sun with Cafe Latte interior, around here dealer lots are full of grey with black seats, no variety at all. Mystic Jade is a nice color too.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [out4cat] by habitat1
Sep 18, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 18, 2008 4:26 pm)

Back when I bought my 1995 Maxima, the dealers in Northern Virginia set a new standard for "sleeziness". Rosenthal and Browns were particularly scummy. As was Darcars on the Maryland side.
 
VOB was the only Nissan dealer at the time that was professional and had integrity. And they were generally great for service, as well. I'm not sure what they are like today, but it's a good bet that the others didn't find any religion in the intervening 14 years.
 
Also, consider Baltimore. Back when I bought my 911 in 2005, HBL, Arlington, Rockville and Tischer all said $1,000 off was the best they could do on the new 997 Cabriolet S model. And that I should be happy that they would even take $1k off. I went to Hunt Valley Porsche and got $10k off.
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GO MDX1: by traindriver
Sep 18, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: go_mdx1 (Sep 18, 2008 4:15 pm)

Ahhh, I thought this may be the case. How much was the dealer prep fees? (what do you consider high?) Not much point in posting an internet price if it is not the price. Silly games that waste both parties time.
 
I just skimmed the last few pages and see that you are in NC. I am in SC. What were your impressions of the NC dealers you visited? Any dealer along the SC border from the NC mountains to the coast is in driving range from either my home, the inlaws home, or their beach condo.
 
Over the years, I found that smaller mom & pop stores are easier and better in every way. Big corporate owned stores = sleazy, old school, high pressure.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [habitat1] by out4cat
Sep 19, 2008 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 18, 2008 5:38 pm)

You must have a crystal ball, I deal with Rosenthal's and have been doing that since I got my 2001 Maxima. My salesman may very well make money on the deal but the numbers on my lease are always within my expectations and financial tolerance. I walked away with my 07 lease costing me less than my 04 lease in initial cash and same monthly payments for a car that was about 1k more in sticker price. My wife is on her 3rd Altima and the lease payments have not gone up since 2000 even though the car's sticker price has creeped up. Maybe it is just my salesman, I have dealt with others and found them to be right down disrespectful even. So the Tysons area has surely changed since 1995, basically I deal at Rosenthal's and dream at HBL.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [out4cat] by habitat1
Sep 20, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 19, 2008 3:22 pm)

Sounds like Rosenthal improved or you have a higher tolerance for pain than me.
 
Just out of curiosity, since I have never leased and have always paid cash, what do the lease payments on a Maxima / Altima look like compared to, say, a BMW 3 series? I was under the impression that, if you are inclined to lease, BMW's look relatively more affordable because they have both higher resale (residual) and more leasing incentives. A couple of years ago, a friend leased a 530i for only about $100 a month than his wife's Maxima, even though the MSRP's were nearly $20k apart.

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