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Re: Maxima vs TL [SergeyM] by habitat1
Sep 17, 2008 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: SergeyM (Sep 16, 2008 6:59 pm)

Wow! A new BMW with a 2.8 liter V6! Must be a rare find.
 
Give him a break - that was the Johnny Walker talking.
 
I'm sure with a clear mind, he would have written 3.0 liter (non-turbo) I6.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [sanjaysdca] by tom17
Sep 17, 2008 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Sep 16, 2008 7:57 am)

sanjaysdca
 
Which car did you end up with ?
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [out4cat] by sanjaysdca
Sep 17, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 16, 2008 2:23 pm)

Four doors and space was important to me...
Ended up with MDX Tech with Power Tail Gate
 
Here is my rationale/thinking process
 
2009 Maxima
Liked the car.... but I thought 35K is little too high for what it offers (my opinion). And somehow I was not that enthusiastic after the drive... Cannot pinpoint the cause
 
2008 TL. Nice car, liked the fit and finish, Decent space, I was getting one for 28.5K base & 31.5K for TL type S with NAV. I probably would have bought this if not MDX. A good value.
 
2008 RL: Could not understand the purpose of this car. Is not significantly better then TL type S. Rear seat space is less then TL
 
Audi A6: 3.2L engine felt weaker. Liked 4.2...but it was over my budget
 
BMW 528: Best driving car. Was putoff by the I-Drive. wife did not like the all around visibility - specially from B piller back.
 
Lexus GS: Nice car, good treatment by dealer, was priced well too (41K for base). Dont really know why I didnt consider it after first test drive
 
M35: Best overall 4 door CAR. Good space, good driving & dealership experience. If TL was not 31K I would have bought this (CAR)
 
E350: Like the design. But after reading the reliability issues here at edmunds I scratched it off.
 
Genesis: This is the car I really wanted to like. The testdrive was OK. Has all the Doodads that you can think off. Was put off by Kerney Mesa Hyundai Dealer after he said "Genesis is probably too rich for you". Hyundai brand was scratched off
 
Suburu Outback: We do quite a bit camping etc. Thought a wagon might be a good thing to consider. Suburu Outback 3.0R is selling very well. Very difficult to find.
 
Finally Acura MDX: Was a good balance of the space we needed and the most car like 7 seater you can buy. 7 seater was not my first choice, but it was most PRACTICAL choice for us. Acura also had good incentives (Got mine for $358xx +TTL)
 
Other SUV's that I drove either too soft or too expensive.
 
A long confusing journey to buy a car
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [sanjaysdca] by habitat1
Sep 17, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Sep 17, 2008 7:32 am)

Wow, that's an interesting set of vehicles you cross shopped - you are going to send out4cat back to his Johnny Walker tring to comprehend all of those violations of the manufacturers' marketing intentions.
 
But I have to ask about some of the prices.
 
 - The TL and TL-S at $3k+ BELOW invoice? $7k below MSRP? And the MDX you bought at $35.8k was at $4,300 below invoice and close to $9,000 under MSRP? I haven't been seriously shopping lately, but those seem like huge discounts. Is Acura that desparate? Where are you located?
 
 - If you took your negotiating skills to the Nissan dealer and got a similar discount, you'd be looking at a $27-28k Maxima. Would that have changed your mind?
 
 - On the A6 4.2 being over your budget, but the E350 not? I get A6's when I take my 911 in for service and in our area, the actual price after discounts of an A6 4.2 is less than an E350 (and even 535i). But all of these are in the low to mid $50's.
 
- What made you describe the M35 as the best overall car? The Infiniti dealers can't give them away here and the 2 people I know that bought one are both moderately unhappy. Ho-hum performance and driving dynamics, lousy gas mileage, and just not a "luxury feel". I have only riden, not driven the car, but even from the passenger seat, it wasn't very impressive.
 
- Did you consider used? I've never bought a used car, but a friend that had been shopping for a LS460 recently bought a 2004 S500 4-matic w/ 31k miles in absolutely pristine condition for $35,000 including a (additional) 4/50k extended warranty. With basic entry level luxury sedans like the Maxima pushing $35k+ and mid-level luxury sport sedans in the $45-$55k+ range, that $35k S-Class (or even cheaper A8 or 750i) looks like a great deal to someone who wants the extra space. Did you consider that option?
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [habitat1] by sanjaysdca
Sep 17, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 17, 2008 10:32 am)

It was interesting set.. or as my wife says irritating set as these vehicles have nothing in common except price... Towards the end she refused to come with me for test drives.
 
About the pricing... All prices are in Southern California. I used carsdirect.com in zipcode 90501 for comparision...and decided to shoot for 500 to 1000 below carsdirect prices.
 
For example this morning cars direct had following prices:
TL: 27.9K..so 28K is not that great
TL type S: 32.8 K
 
A6 3.2 base: 40.7K..add some options and tax ~45K
A6 4.2: 46.8 K add options and tax ~ 50K above my budget
 
E350 base: 41K add options etc ~45K. If I could wait till January I might have considered this... as there will be big deals on E350 in January to march time frame.
 
MDX Tech with PTG: 37.2K..so 35.8 is not that out of line. There is factory to dealer incentive of 4000...so I dipped 300 into his hold back.
 
Infiniti M: They have 3000 fectory to dealer incentive + 3000 loyalty cash for infiniti owners... That is 6K off invoice.
 
My assessment of Infiniti might be tainted as I have owned G20, I30, first gen Q45...and have been spoiled by the service. If Infiniti had a mid size non nissan based 7 seater I might have considered.
 
Maxima dealers here in So Cal are not that willing. Having said that I did not like the Max enough to start negotiating. Moreover I generally dont like buying first model year car.
 
No I did not consider used. I generally buy new, take care of them, and run them to ground
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [tom17] by sanjaysdca
Sep 17, 2008 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: tom17 (Sep 17, 2008 5:16 am)

Tom,
2008 MDX with Tech Pkg
Sterling grey
Black interior
No other add ons
 
Resisted buying a 7 seater for a long time...but in the end practicality won....
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Re: Maxima vs TL [habitat1] by out4cat
Sep 17, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 17, 2008 4:57 am)

The funny thing is I knew it was a 3.0 liter and for some reason associated 328 with a 3 series 2.8 liter (My fuzzy logic).
It is Mercedes that designates model number based on engine displacement (E350 is a 3.5 liter, C300 is a 3.0 liter, S550 is a 5.5 liter, you get the idea, makes sense too).
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [habitat1] by out4cat
Sep 17, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 17, 2008 10:32 am)

I totally agree with you on the M35/45 model from Infinity, here in the D.C. area, they are allover the place but I still say the design is uninspiring. I don't quite know why Infinity struggles with the design/appeal when it comes to this vehicle. In pricing an M45 a few months ago, I almost dropped when I saw the sticker price over 50K, BMW 5 series is definitely the choice when looking at that price range.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [sanjaysdca] by tom17
Sep 17, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Sep 17, 2008 12:03 pm)

My assessment of Infiniti might be tainted as I have owned G20, I30, first gen Q45...
 
Good luck with the MDX. The discounts are amazing. My wife drives a 98 I30 and I recently traded by 1990 Q45 (had for 14 years) with 180K miles for a new GS350 ($7K discount off $52K sticker). I must say the Infiniti service department is great. Still gave me a loaner just for an oil change on my 18 year old Q.
 
The current Infiniti offerings turn way too high RPM on the highway for me.
 
What is up with the E350 in January? I did not consider Mercedes since Consumer Reports rates them the worst reliability of any make sold in the US.
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2009 Maxima. by carfanforever
Sep 17, 2008 (7:01 pm)
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I love it. It is a sexy and beautiful car.

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