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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [habitat1] by alexstore
Sep 16, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 15, 2008 7:24 am)

05 5 SPEED AUTO RATED 26- GET 28-35
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Maxima vs TL by out4cat
Sep 16, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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For those of you defending the Maxima as a worthy contender for the TL because of price, think of the compliment to Nissan when you say that a car by their base company can compete with another company's top tier vehicle line simply because of price. Now that I think about it, I feel better about driving the Maxima, thanks. My lack of gullibility worked, I did not go for the fufu Acura and still got a car that in your opinion is comparable. I think I will celebrate, double Johnnie Walker Blue coming up. And I got a bigger back seat and roomier trunk to boot, what a deal. Again thanks....
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [sanjaysdca] by out4cat
Sep 16, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Sep 16, 2008 7:57 am)

WOW you left out the new Audi A5, were you only looking for 4 doors? I must reiterate compliment to Nissan, you even considered it along with the BMW 528 (2.8 Liter vs Maxima 3.5 with more power). Also with the TL and RL (I don't like the styling on this one). We do agree with the Lexus GS compatibility. I know Infinity and Nissan do not share cars but they seem to have one for one side by side versions in each company, even the SUVs have side by side versions except for the Pathfinder. The one thing that difference of opinions points out is that we don't all think alike and therefore car companies keep trying to guess what we are looking for. I have never gone looking for a car based on price although I am limited by available funds. I pick the features that I like/need (4 door vs 2 door/ Fluffy ride vs road feel/ American vs import / and one subjective thing that some have left out -the overall looks of the car and whether or not it catches my eye). I think that one of the most distinctive cars out there today in 2 dr market is the Audi A5/S5, overall I think BMW has some catching up to do although I realize the Audi will NOT unseat the BMW.
I also think that a power to cost based decision automatically makes the G8 a great choice, only drawback is the interior only comes in black so that is a no-go for me. I would get the room I need, good looks, reviews seem to be favorable, and rear wheel drive V8 punch with killer exhaust sound like only an America car can generate (the blender on steroid sound of the Jap cars does not quite do it for me).
 
Ok enough of that, so what car did you finally decide to get? I would go with the A6 or GS 350 but that is just me.
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Re: Maxima vs TL [out4cat] by habitat1
Sep 16, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 16, 2008 2:00 pm)

Don't be too quick to thank me. I didn't necessarily say the Maxima would win any competition by my scoring. I merely said that, at that price level, I would compare the Maxima to the TL and BMW 328i and a few others. At which point I might very well come to a different conclusion than you did. The TL offers more upscale interior / luxury and the 328i is clearly the champ in performance and driving dynamics. I just wouldn't give too many bonus points to the TL for being an Acura instead of a Honda.
 
But to each their own and everybody has different priorities. So I guess I'll say "you're welcome".
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Re: Maxima vs TL [habitat1] by out4cat
Sep 16, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 16, 2008 2:35 pm)

Not fair, you caught me in the middle of my Johnnie Walker Blue with that response. In looking at the BMW 328i, it has a 2.8 liter V6, no doubt a fine automobile but anemic in HP (230 BMW vs 290 for Maxima/280 for Acura) yet it can keep the 0-60 time at 6.3 compatible with the other 2 cars, performance wise a champ as you call it. I just find the car to be smaller than both the Tl and Acura if space is a decision making consideration. That is why I passed up the BMW, no I did not just walk by it with blinders on, I had to take space into consideration, otherwise I would have a Audi A5.
On another note, I just never figured that comparability between cars would be based on price and thought it was more towards what the manufacturer is trying to accomplish. I considered the Honda Accord in looking for my 4 door sedan but found it to be bland, spiritless, and uninspiring when compared with the Maxima. Great value, but just not exiting enough.
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Re: Maxima vs TL [out4cat] by SergeyM
Sep 16, 2008 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 16, 2008 2:58 pm)

Wow! A new BMW with a 2.8 liter V6! Must be a rare find.
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Spare Tyre by rakesh1
Sep 17, 2008 (12:43 am)
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Is the Spare Tyre full size alloy or Steel
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Re: Maxima vs TL [out4cat] by habitat1
Sep 17, 2008 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 16, 2008 2:58 pm)

I agree, although the 3 series has grown quite a bit over the past 2-3 decades, BMW keeps it just enough smaller than the 5 series that it does not offer quite the rear seat space of the Maxima, Camry or TL. It is a space compromise that many can't afford to make.
 
On the performance front, BMW has always used Clydesdales to measure from, whereas most Japanese manufacturers appear to use Shetland Ponies. You may recall that Acura/Honda, Mazda, Nissan and several other Japanese manufacturers had to restate (lower) their horspeower ratings a couple of years ago when they were independently found to be overstated. BMW, Mercedes and Porsche would never have tried that, even on "gullible" Americans. The Japs tried to make it seem like a new SAE measurement standard was being implemented, but the fact is, they were caught cheating. And even now I still think the European horses are bigger than the Japanese ones.
 
Another big part of the performance difference is BMW's RWD setup and excellent drivetrain efficiency. Anything over about 200 horspeower in FWD doesn't add much to performance. Witness my 190hp 1995 Maxima that was tested at 6.6 - an extra 100 hp (and 600 lbs) only saves you 0.3 seconds. When BMW puts their 300 hp in a RWD 335i, they get sub 5 second 0-60. It's almost impossible to get a similar sized FWD car down to under 6 seconds, let alone 5. We'll have to see how Acura does with AWD in the 300hp TL, but that adds even more weight and AWD has at least 5-8% lower drivetrain efficiency than RWD.
 
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Re: Maxima vs TL [SergeyM] by habitat1
Sep 17, 2008 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: SergeyM (Sep 16, 2008 6:59 pm)

Wow! A new BMW with a 2.8 liter V6! Must be a rare find.
 
Give him a break - that was the Johnny Walker talking.
 
I'm sure with a clear mind, he would have written 3.0 liter (non-turbo) I6.
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Re: out4cat, rkurlander, cyberpunk [sanjaysdca] by tom17
Sep 17, 2008 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Sep 16, 2008 7:57 am)

sanjaysdca
 
Which car did you end up with ?

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