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Re: Anyone with the Sport Navagation Pack. [eric106] by go_mdx1
Sep 11, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: eric106 (Sep 11, 2008 2:02 am)

From an interior cabin perspective, the Premium Package gives you these extra amenities over what is already included in the Sport Package:
 
1) Air conditioned driver seat
2) Dual moonroofs
3) Rear seat air/radio controls in the armrest
4) LED "mood" lights in the front door handles and ceiling
5) 7" Color monitor w/rear view backup camera
6) Rear sunshade
7) Auto up/down feature on all 4 windows.
 
Nissan's website does a pretty good job of showing you the four different levels of interior accomodations (S, SV, Sport, and the Premium).
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Re: What's wrong with the CVT? [habitat1] by pat HOST
Sep 11, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 11, 2008 4:56 am)

Yo, let's avoid the name-calling.
 
Everyone is welcome here as long as opinions are expressed civilly and respectfully. It's easy enough to ignore posts we wish were not here. Some of us need to practice that a bit.
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Re: What's wrong with the CVT? [habitat1] by cyberpunk
Sep 11, 2008 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 11, 2008 4:56 am)

habitat1,
 
Based on what could you possibly make the claim that the BMW and Lexus transmissions you mentioned above are more fuel-efficient transmissions than Nissan's CVT? I submit that you couldn't possibly know this, or make this statement, based on the published (or even real-world) MPG these cars achieve, as a little variable called the engine influences MPG just a bit.
 
I think I can sum up your beef against the '09 Maxima as being that a) there is no manual tranmission available and b) Nissan's marketing spin refers to it as a 4DSC.
 
I'll grant you this: If you are looking for a sports car with a manual tranmission, the '09 Maxima is not for you. That is what it is not , but in no way, whatsoever, does that take away from everything that the '09 Maxima is.
 
As of last year, manual transmissions accounted for less than 9% of all cars sold in the US. That number is heading south, and many estimates expect it to be around 6% within the next 4 years.
 
I know of no product that is successful at being all things for all people. I can hardly knock Nissan for focusing their energies on the 91-94% of the US market, and foregoing the expense of catering to the rest. And Nissan did this by providing one of the best automatic tranmissions on the market, the best CVT on the market, and a transmission that also gives the driver the ability to simulate 6 gear ratios (should one desire).
 
I do enjoy manual transmissions. If I were in the market for either a sports car or a car with a manual tranmission, I would not have purchased the Maxima. However, any lost sales that Nissan may experience due to the Maxima not having a manual tranmission will be a statistically insignificant number.
 
For its class (the flagship sporty sedan for a non-luxury badge), the '09 Maxima is the best overall package on the market.
 
But wait - don't bother responding. As the host of this forum just reminded us, we've got Ignore options, and you're now on mine.
 
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Precision Grey by out4cat
Sep 11, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Just a suggestion/hint to anyone who has their 09 Maxima in Precision Grey, there is a wax available from www.topoftheline.com called pizazz that brings out the depth and brilliance of this color like no other wax I have ever used. The wax is less expensive than Zymol and Pinnacle products and works just as well if not better. One thing I do to make things easier and faster is apply it when the car is wet right after washing. You will notice the water beading gets smaller which means the wax actually does some of the drying for you, then I buff and rebuff with a clean dry towel and just watch the gloss. I used the product with my previous Maxima in Coral Sand (no longer available). I am sure the product will do the same with other colors but I just have not tried it in anything but Coral Sand and Precision Grey.
As far as spray detailing products, I have used almost all of them, the one I find to be LEAST effective is Quick Detailer by Meguiars. It does spray off smudges, prints, and stuff like that but it does not add gloss or cover up fine hairline marks on paint like the other brands.
These are just my suggestions based on experiences, everyone here seems to be passionate about their 09 Maxima and keeping it clean should be part of that. Don't forget to use detail spray on your wheels, they are also painted and clear coated these days. Have fun!!!
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Re: What's wrong with the CVT? [cyberpunk] by SergeyM
Sep 11, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: cyberpunk (Sep 11, 2008 12:52 pm)

the flagship sporty sedan for a non-luxury badge...
 
Some creativity! You could also add large FWD and guess what, there is no one else in suck class. Avalon is not sporty, Passat is not large enough, makes Maxima a sure winner.
 
BTW, what's with using BMW name in Vein? No one in their spare mind should compare the current Maxima to the UDM.
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Question about the Premium Pack. by eric106
Sep 11, 2008 (7:01 pm)
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Does all premium Pack come with Navagation. Thanks.
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Re: What's wrong with the CVT? [cyberpunk] by habitat1
Sep 11, 2008 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: cyberpunk (Sep 11, 2008 12:52 pm)

I think I can sum up your beef against the '09 Maxima as being that a) there is no manual tranmission available and b) Nissan's marketing spin refers to it as a 4DSC.
 
That's pretty close. I also have issues with the Maxima's weight bloating 20% from 1995 to 2009, but the dichotomy of calling it a 4DSC and not offering a manual transimission is my bigger "beef".
  
any lost sales that Nissan may experience due to the Maxima not having a manual tranmission will be a statistically insignificant number.
 
That's where we disagree. IMO, the elimination of a manual transmission option from the Maxima coincides too directly with its loss of interest among enthusaists, its dissapearance from comparision tests against the 3 series and other ELLPS and the 75% reduction in annual sales form 1995 to 2008. And, at the same time, the Acura TL significantly reinvigorated its sales with the 2004 redesign which just happened to include a 6-speed manual, sport suspensioned version of the car. Nevermind that less than 10% of TL buyers selected a manual transmission, the automotive press went ga-ga over the TL 6-speed and all of the comparison tests were with that "sport" model. Manual transmission sales were only 10% of the total, but overall sales wer up over 100% between 2002/3 and 2004/5.
 
I apologize for my "passion" on this issue which makes it difficult to accept where the Maxima has gone without expressing my dissapointment and hope that they are listening. In fairness to you and others that think the current 2009 is a well balanced car, CVT notwithstanding, I will concede that point. I am only suggesting that if Nissan wants to get back the serious enthusaist and capture the full market potential via the "halo" effect, it needs to "walk the walk" with a true sport version that includes a manual transmission. I believe the benefit of doing so will, over time, far exceed an additional 8% in sales volume.
 
Let me also say that I appreciate a passionate debate on both sides and although our opinions may be at odds, it sure beats the hell out of apathy.
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Re: What's wrong with the CVT? [SergeyM] by cyberpunk
Sep 11, 2008 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: SergeyM (Sep 11, 2008 6:02 pm)

the flagship sporty sedan for a non-luxury badge...
 
Fine - call it the flagship for a non-luxury badge.
 
BTW, what's with using BMW name in Vein? No one in their spare mind should compare the current Maxima to the UDM.
 
Now you're singing to the choir. I'm only responding to these repeated "Maxima vs. BMW" or "Maxima vs. Lexus" comparisons that the naysayers keep throwing out there.
 
I too find it ridiculous to compare the Maxima to the BMW.
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Re: What's wrong with the CVT? [habitat1] by cyberpunk
Sep 11, 2008 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 11, 2008 7:06 pm)

I think you are giving the manual transmission (and lack thereof) too much credit for the TL's rise and the Maxima's fall throughout those years.
 
The TL improved nicely throughout the years, overall. The TL was becoming a better car, while the Maxima was (again, overall) losing its way and becoming "just another" Japanese sedan.
 
The Maxima's loss of sales was symptomatic of its overall transition into a very boring car. Sure - those that would only buy a car with a manual tranmission were part of the many that jumped ship. But no matter how you look at it - that segment of the Maxima's customer base had little impact on Nissan's overall decline in sales. You can't possibly blame the loss of a feature that very few people ever bought in the first place for a 75% decline in overall sales over a period of years. Nor can you credit a feature that less than 10% of consumers purchase for a sales increase of over 100% over a period of years. Clearly, Nissan's decline and Acura's rise, throughout those years, must be credited with something more.
 
Nissan did many things wrong throughout those years.
 
The '09 Maxima is an example of Nissan once again firmly establing a brand flagship, and righting the ship.
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Re: Precision Grey [out4cat] by traindriver
Sep 11, 2008 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: out4cat (Sep 11, 2008 5:15 pm)

Thanks for that info. Precision Grey is at the top of our wish list.
I usually think that grey is the most boring color on cars and is at the bottom of my list. Something about Precision Grey though really looks sharp on the Maxima IMO--maybe because it looks more like a dark silver to me than grey.
 
MDX: did you find a blue one? Early on they were rare at introduction. I see a fair number of blues in dealer inventories now, not as many reds, very few of whatever that green color is.

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