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Sedans Nissan Maxima 2009 Nissan Maxima
681 messages, Last post on Oct 08, 2009 at 11:05 AM
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Hey I have only seen one 09 Maxima on the road and it was in Precision Grey which is the color of my 07, I have not seen one in Tuscan Sun, does anyone on this page have one in that color? Is it hard to keep clean? I am glad they made the color deeper and darker than the old Sonoma Sunset (04-08).
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I'm considering new car. Currently drive an '06 TL 6MT. Test drove the '09 Max SV Premium and Tech package. Loved the looks, handling, interior, and tranny. Not sure if I want to give up a MT and my reasons in the past was b/c I could not stand regular automatics and the jarring downshifts when making passing maneuvers or going up twisty mountain roads. The CVT seems to solve these issues. To me it was a very good thing. I guess I don't understand why this tranny is not what most would want or why they feel it is not sporty enough. It was buttery smooth compared to a normal AT.
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Replying to: cecilt1 (Sep 09, 2008 6:49 pm) I'm not arguing that the 2009 Maxima CVT won't be attractive to "most" Camry, Accord and Buick shoppers. It certainly will. But, IMHO, if Nissan wants any chance whatsoever of recapturing even semi-serious driving enthusiasts (and making their 4DSC label less of a joke) they need to offer a manual transmission alternative. Or, at a minimum, ditch the CVT in favor of a SMG/DSG if they are only going to offer one transmission. Nissan offering a sport suspension and high performance 19" tire option on a CVT transmission is worse than Toyota putting a spoiler on a Camry and calling it a sport version. At least that spoiler doesn't need to be replaced every 15-20k miles and doesn't give those who want "buttery smooth" a rougher ride in the interim. It's challenging enough to keep even a "sporty" label on a FWD car that has bloated from 3,000 to 3,600+ lbs, but doing so with a rubber band CVT is beyond credible.
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 10, 2008 2:26 am) If you prefer BMWs, that's fine, but you realize that not everyone does. The vast majority of folks drive mostly in bumper to bumper traffic, on 35 mph residential streets, or cruise on an interstate, and still manage to fined plenty of excitement in their lives.
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I must say that as direct and critical of the Maxima as habitat1 may come across, his opinion of the CVT is right on target. A sports package should allow the enthusiast driver to feel the rush of the car shifting, the CVT is as he states, for Buick and Oldsmobile (gee we know what happened to those). For the price of the sport package Nissan gives you 19in wheels (dress up), sport tuned suspension (what does that mean) and seats with an extra long cushion on the front (the cushion is too soft and by no means anything like the same bolsters on a BMW). Oh yeah and paddle shifters on CVT transmission. You know there is a reason why BMW takes an extra year or 2 to bring the M series cars into the market after the original versions hit the streets, fine tuning, real power, sophisticated and respectable performance, not just play dress up like Nissan. After all from the base line S to the SV-Premium and SV-Sport, the engine is the same on all 3, what gives? I agree that every day driving is what most of us do in bumper to bumper traffic but if Nissan is going to charge a couple of thousand dollars to portray their car as sporty, then by all means don't just give the Maxima a bark, make the darn thing bite and bite hard. I have nothing against the Maxima, have owned and loved all 3 of mine (the 04 was a challenge quality wise). I have something against Nissan talking the talk but not letting the car walk the walk. The engine can easily exceed 300 HP but they put that version in the fufu snob appeal Infinity and not the Sport Package Maxima, just not right. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 10, 2008 2:26 am) Friggin' go away, already. It's hogwash to claim that the definition of a driving enthusiast is predicated on manual or rough automatic transmissions. cecilt1 - as habitat1 has made abundantly clear, the CVT tranmission is not for everyone. He clearly doesn't like it. That's fine - but that opinion is no more valid than that of those that recognize that the CVT is the transmission of the future. The world changes. The CVT is progress in automotive technology. It's a phenominal transmission, and a lot of fun to drive...and yes, that includes being fun for driving enthusiasts. The '09 Maxima is a FWD vehicle with virtually no torque-steer whatsoever. It's extremely responsive, handles great, and is a heck of a lot of fun to drive. It's a pricey, luxurious, sporty car. Is it a true sports car? No - but come on, people, get over that 4DSC spin. Nobody that buys one of these things thinks the Maxima is a Corvette. We didn't take that tag as being literal when we bought the car...why are you taking it so clearly personally?? 
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I was wondering who had the Sport with Nav and how you like it. I was looking at the Prem. Package and really like the wood trim but its more expensive. Is there any big difference between the Prem and the Sport. Talking about Interior. Thanks for the feedback.
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Replying to: cyberpunk (Sep 10, 2008 5:49 pm) On your opinion that a CVT is "a heck of a lot of fun to drive", we clearly define fun differently. A CVT has NO "friggin" driver involvement whatsoever. How in the hell can that be much "fun" or "sporty"? On your opinion that the CVT is "progress in automotive technology". I'll grant you that compared to a old style poorly engineered Nissan 4-speed automatic. But, as much as I'm not a fan of automatics, BMW's 6-speeds and Lexus 8-speeds are better performing AND more fuel efficient than Nissan's CVT. And if the metric for progress is "sport", everyone from BMW to Audi to VW and others have developed far superior SMG's and DSG's that can be set to automatic mode when preferable. Nissan tells you humm a fake shift, if you want to remember what it was like driving an old Maxima with a manual transmssion. For the record, I don't have a "personal" dog in this hunt. I am now fortunate enough to have a 911S as a third car and not currently looking to replace my TL 6-speed. But I still would like to see, for the benefit of others that can't or don't want to dish out $45k+ for a 335i 6-speed, a decent, more affordable "sporty" sedan alternative from Nissan. I guess I'm taking a stand for the sake of others who, hopefully, don't get all of their sports jollies from watching ESPN while eating pizza and all of their driving jollies from humming shifts to the drone of a CVT. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 10, 2008 2:26 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Sep 10, 2008 5:25 am) I can accept that. And believe me, driving is not my primary source of excitement. But, as old4cat said with less rant than me, if Nissan wants to talk the "sport" talk, they should walk the walk. Here's an offer, get Nissan to relabel and advertise the Maxima a 4DCC ("4-Door Commuter Car), and I will exit this forum never to be seen again. That's exactly what a CVT Maxima is - and a pretty darn good one at that, with all the techno do-dads.
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