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Can VW Overtake Toyota and GM, To Become #1 By 2010?

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#117 of 126 Toyota Is Slipping by hpmctorque Oct 03, 2009 (5:37 pm)
Reports and reader comments suggest that Toyota's quality and reliability are slipping. Meanwhile, VW is improving in these areas. While there's probably still a considerable gap in Toyota's favor, if these trends continue they may help VW to catch, and possibly overtake, Toyota in worldwide sales. Replies to this message: fezo (Oct 03, 2009 5:43 pm) hpmctorque (Oct 03, 2009 8:22 pm)
#118 of 126 Re: Toyota Is Slipping [hpmctorque] by fezo Oct 03, 2009 (5:43 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 03, 2009 5:37 pm) I'd been thinking much the same thing. VW's competitive cars feel more substantial than the Japanese. Reliability is teh one thing that's kept me out of them and I'm thinking it won't be long before it's time to jump. Replies to this message: hpmctorque (Oct 03, 2009 8:22 pm)
#119 of 126 Re: Toyota Is Slipping [fezo] by hpmctorque Oct 03, 2009 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: fezo (Oct 03, 2009 5:43 pm) Today I drove a Corolla rental. I can't bring myself to say I had the pleasure of driving it, because it was truly very ordinary. I don't doubt that it's a great transportation value, but it provides next to zero driving enjoyment. There's no comparison to how much more communicative and better feeling the steering is of a VW Golf or Jetta, which I've also driven. The ride handling combination of the VW is also notably better, in my estimation. There's no question I'd forego Toyota's vaunted, though steadily diminishing, reliability for a Volkswagen.
#120 of 126 given by nippononly Oct 03, 2009 (10:38 pm)
what has happened to GM and what very similar thing seems to be starting to happen to Toyota, perhaps the question should be "Should VW try to overtake GM and Toyota?".   The only difference between VW and Toyota is that when Toyota cuts costs it does so in the cabin, while VW does so under the hood. High tech powertrains produced by cheap, poorly trained labor in 3rd world countries using cheap parts are not the formula for success, which is the mentality that VW must overcome.   Low tech powertrains produced by skilled but expensive labor and incorporated in vehicles with bargain basement interiors will not win Toyota too many contests in the long run either.   Seems to me GM has many of the problems of BOTH companies. Replies to this message: fezo (Nov 11, 2009 4:52 pm)
#121 of 126 Re: given [nippononly] by fezo Nov 11, 2009 (4:52 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Oct 03, 2009 10:38 pm) Word is they've done it. We'll see how this goes..
#122 of 126 VW #1 by fho2008 Nov 12, 2009 (8:47 am)
Read that earlier.
#123 of 126 Attention VW fans! by kirstie_h HOST Dec 01, 2009 (8:22 am)
If you're in the LA area, an active blogger, on Twitter and want to drive a VW Toureg for 1 week in December, please email predmunds.com by Friday December 4, 2009 Replies to this message: fezo (Dec 01, 2009 11:01 am) fintail (Dec 01, 2009 11:09 am) nippononly (Dec 03, 2009 9:18 pm)
#124 of 126 Re: Attention VW fans! [kirstie_h] by fezo Dec 01, 2009 (11:01 am)
Replying to: kirstie_h (Dec 01, 2009 8:22 am) Saw a VW I hadn't seen in ages on the road today - a Jetta TREK edition. Remember those? I always thought that was a bad combination for a car with VW's reputation for lack of reliability - "if your car dies on the road just hop on the bicycle!"   When the heck did they make those? Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 01, 2009 11:09 am) nippononly (Dec 03, 2009 9:18 pm)
#125 of 126 Re: Attention VW fans! [fezo] by fintail Dec 01, 2009 (11:09 am)
Replying to: fezo (Dec 01, 2009 11:01 am) I think those are from ca. 1996-98.   When I was in school, my roomate had a Jetta of that era - it was only a few years old then. I swear that thing was in the shop every other week. Replies to this message: nippononly (Dec 03, 2009 9:18 pm)
#126 of 126 Re: Attention VW fans! [fintail] by nippononly Dec 03, 2009 (9:18 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Dec 01, 2009 11:09 am) Good thing they sold a bike with them.

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