Inside Line 2008 Comparison Test - Crossover vs. Minivan vs. SUV

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2008 Comparison Test: Crossover vs. Minivan vs. SUV - Put simply, neither the Sequoia nor the Acadia could touch the Odyssey's ability to swallow stuff, or its ease of loading and unloading passengers or cargo. (more)

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#20 of 38 Please save us from these useless comparisons! by traveler73 Mar 11, 2008 (12:59 pm)
Why is it that every automotive magazine now has re-define the apples to oranges comparison by doing these pieces on dissimilar vehicles which will ultimately be purchased by very dissimilar people. These articles prove nothing except for the preference of the writers as there is little real basis for comparison. Please do us a favor and stop wasting space that could be afforded to more interesting and useful articles! Replies to this message: drive571 (Mar 11, 2008 2:27 pm) traveler73 (Mar 11, 2008 3:10 pm) bobber1 (Mar 11, 2008 3:20 pm) bobw3 (Mar 12, 2008 4:54 am) and 6 more... shoeymis (Mar 11, 2008 8:41 pm)
#21 of 38 Re: Please save us from these useless comparisons! [traveler73] by drive571 Mar 11, 2008 (2:27 pm)
Replying to: traveler73 (Mar 11, 2008 12:59 pm) These three vehicles, despite their engineering differences, are bought by the exact same demographic: spendy parents who have a real or perceived need for lots of seats and space. I frankly don't think there's any argument there. Replies to this message: traveler73 (Mar 11, 2008 3:10 pm) bobber1 (Mar 11, 2008 3:20 pm) bobw3 (Mar 12, 2008 4:54 am) brutus22 (Mar 12, 2008 11:07 am) and 5 more...
#22 of 38 Re: Please save us from these useless comparisons! [drive571] by traveler73 Mar 11, 2008 (3:10 pm)
Replying to: drive571 (Mar 11, 2008 2:27 pm) Try telling the Sequoia owner he or she is the same person that purchases an Odyssey--that's where demographics go astray ---sure the Honda and minivans in general are more utilitarian for the average person...but by that logic everybody would own one of the ugly things-----sorry, but some people who need that room, still would rather walk than admit the loss of their attractiveness, put on the sweat pants, and plop till they drop a load of kids into a minivan. Replies to this message: bobber1 (Mar 11, 2008 3:20 pm) bobw3 (Mar 12, 2008 4:54 am) brutus22 (Mar 12, 2008 11:07 am) bobw3 (Mar 13, 2008 10:17 am) and 4 more...
#23 of 38 Re: Please save us from these useless comparisons! [traveler73] by bobber1 Mar 11, 2008 (3:20 pm)
Replying to: traveler73 (Mar 11, 2008 3:10 pm) That sounds like one of those "oversensitive egos" described in the article.
#24 of 38 Re: the contenders [jkavanagh] by ahightower Mar 11, 2008 (6:04 pm)
Replying to: jkavanagh (Mar 10, 2008 5:37 pm) Maybe the standard size garage in "fly-over country" is bigger. Isn't 20' standard?
#25 of 38 Re: Please save us from these useless comparisons! [traveler73] by shoeymis Mar 11, 2008 (8:41 pm)
Replying to: traveler73 (Mar 11, 2008 12:59 pm) I couldn't agree more with your statement. Everybody knows that if you don't need to tow anything or ever go "off-road" that a mini-van wins the competition pretty much hands down. Let's face it a whole lot of people own boats, ATV's, snowmobiles, campers, etc. or just plain don't like mini-vans. For those people a mini-van is not even an option. The towing capacity of almost all car based mini-vans is 3500 lbs. Even a small 18ft boat ski boat will weight that much with gear in it, so the mini-van is useless to a family with a boat. And to get a Sequoia with all the luxuxy of a $43k Acadia you would probably be up above $50k so price vs options is definitely a decision that needs to be made if a person is actually trying to compare an Acadia and a Sequoia.
#26 of 38 Wise pick is the Acadia by dvsutton Mar 11, 2008 (10:38 pm)
I guess the only smart pick is the Acadia. If I want transmission problems and constant rotor replacements, along with dash rattles and sliding door failures, I would pick the Odyssey because those are all of the problems associated with my wifes Honda Odyssey that has 15k miles on it. If I want to have broken camshafts and engine failure due to sludge, of course I would pick the Toyota. Then they can deny any fault on their part for months while I threaten a lawsuit. Then finally come clean and call it a "service bulliten", that way the can escape any negetive media coverage about it. Just like the Toyota Camry I had. So The GMC Acadia would be my pick. Replies to this message: bobw3 (Mar 12, 2008 4:41 am)
#27 of 38 Re: Wise pick is the Acadia [dvsutton] by bobw3 Mar 12, 2008 (4:41 am)
Replying to: dvsutton (Mar 11, 2008 10:38 pm) Good pick...GM is well known to be much more reliable then either Honda or Toyota.
#28 of 38 Re: Please save us from these useless comparisons! [traveler73] by bobw3 Mar 12, 2008 (4:54 am)
Replying to: traveler73 (Mar 11, 2008 3:10 pm) by that logic everybody would own one [minivan] Exactly correct...but then people rarely makes any purchase (especially cars) based solely (or even partially) on logic. I'd say in general that the folks you see driving around in minivans are more logical and practical than those driving around in giant SUVs, with the exception of those who need to tow or require serious AWD. On the other hand, if you have $40-50K laying around then go buy some giant SUV or what-ever other vehicle you want, but that doesn't change the fact that for those using logic for decision making, then minivan will provide more bang for the buck in terms of space utilization, cost, mpg, etc than any other vehicle out there. Replies to this message: brutus22 (Mar 12, 2008 11:07 am) bobw3 (Mar 13, 2008 10:17 am) bobber1 (Mar 13, 2008 10:46 am) and 3 more...
#29 of 38 Perfect Comparo w/ Personal Insights by brutus22 Mar 12, 2008 (11:07 am)
Replying to: bobw3 (Mar 12, 2008 4:54 am) Hello, This comparo makes so much sense it is not even funny, not sure why people are busting on it. My family just bought the Saturn Outlook. We probably the exact people these cars are made for, we have 2 small children and have plans for a 3rd. I checked out the Honda Od, Toyota Sienna, Honda Pilot, Mazda CX-9, Toyota Highlander Hybrid and of course the Saturn Outlook. General reasons for going with one make over another (will not comment on driving characteristics just simple facts) -AWD....we live in NH get the idea? (If the Honda Od had it would of been a tough call with the Outlook but still probably lean towards the Outlook since the some of the facts below....why oh why is it not an option...I don't know) -Utility.... real 8 passenger seating (if you are going to buy one of these cars you should want to get the maximum benefits from the size, our friends who have a Sienna already ran into issue missing that 1 additional seat)....decent room behind the 3rd row along with the various folding seat options to meet your various needs. -Styling/Features inside.... Dual Sunroof (This was a huge thing that sold this car on my wife and son), Onstar+Integrated Phone (used onstar within 2 days of getting car having keys locked inside), split folding seats (Unbelievably the Highlander does not offer this and has a much smaller room behind 3rd row...just a glorified stationwagon IMO since you need to fold the entire 3 row...oh how I wanted the Hybrid, but oh no they lost it on a simple thing like this) -Styling/Features outside.... the Outlook is a very handsome vehicle and does not give that mommy look that so many do not like (such as my wife for example , but to each his own....available tow package for a decent real-world weight towing. We love it so far and if it was a Hybrid I would think it is the Perfect car. B. Replies to this message: bobw3 (Mar 13, 2008 10:17 am) bobber1 (Mar 13, 2008 10:46 am) bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 5:40 am) and 2 more...