Are The Japanese Poised to Dethrone the 911 AND the Z06? - READ ONLY

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#188 of 194 I thought this article was about the GT-R vs Z06 and 911? by revmatt

Aug 03, 2008 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: tedebear (Aug 03, 2008 11:51 am)
Add $20,000.00 worth of upgrades to the Z06 and GT-R and the Viper would not even be in the same race!
 
True, I am unaccustomed to awd. My previous SVTs and wifes Jag do not handle AT ALL like the GT-R!
It just feels odd! I do not get a real feel... "road talking to me" like my current other vehicles... or previous ones...
I still have a hard time BUYING the MT and R&T articles!
 

#189 of 194 Re: I thought this article was about the GT-R vs Z06 and 911? [revmatt] by tedebear

Aug 03, 2008 (5:51 pm)

Replying to: revmatt (Aug 03, 2008 4:55 pm)
Add $20,000.00 worth of upgrades to the Z06 and GT-R and the Viper would not even be in the same race!
 
The same could be said of the ACR Viper if you add $20k worth of upgrades to it. The test was run with the original equipment from the factory.

#190 of 194 Re: I thought this article was about the GT-R vs Z06 and 911? [tedebear] by bigmclargehuge

Aug 03, 2008 (6:36 pm)

Replying to: tedebear (Aug 03, 2008 5:51 pm)
Here I'm going to have to agree with Revmatt,
 
The ACR already is a stripped out track horse. Do the same treatment to the Z06 (read: ultra-wide Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, aero tune + adjustable suspension + strip anything unnecessary from interior) and you'd have a factory C6R for 100K, which should give the ACR a significant run for its money.
 
Just because Dodge road-legalizes a club racer doesn't mean it maintains all the functionality of a touring car. The fact that the GT-R comes very close indeed to a tuned ACR says a lot.

#191 of 194 Re: I thought this article was about the GT-R vs Z06 and 911? [revmatt] by bigmclargehuge

Aug 03, 2008 (7:00 pm)

Replying to: revmatt (Aug 03, 2008 4:55 pm)
Whereas I'm getting to be almost too confident when it comes to tossing an AWD car around corners and giving it the power. The traditional feedback from the steering wheel won't really exist in the same way.
 
Thats actually why the gamers have an easier time with driving rally-style cars. Their mind is trained to take queues only from the eyes, never the hands.
 
But I think its pretty unfathomable that:
 
MT
Edmunds
EVO magazine
R & T
Autocar
Top Gear
 
And a handful of others are all sandbagging other cars. Nissan has got to be doing something right.

#192 of 194 Re: I thought this article was about the GT-R vs Z06 and 911? [revmatt] by revmatt

Aug 03, 2008 (7:53 pm)

Replying to: revmatt (Aug 03, 2008 4:55 pm)
$20,000.00 would bring the GT-R and Z06 closer to the cost of the Viper!

#193 of 194 Re: I thought this article was about the GT-R vs Z06 and 911? [revmatt] by bigmclargehuge

Aug 04, 2008 (6:23 am)

Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Aug 03, 2008 6:36 pm)
I watched this on Friday, but couldn't find it all weekend until I got back to work today and checked my history tab.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsP-4Cjm3mk
 
I'm not positive how good this guy's times actually are on this particular track, but it certainly does look like he's carrying tremendous speed through the corners.
 
Audi R8 sounds better though, IMO. I really wish that car has more power
 
The rest of the video is funny yet stupid.

#194 of 194 Thanks Captain Obvious! by bigmclargehuge

Nov 24, 2008 (1:05 pm)

Drivers Republic set out to prove a GT-R on Bridgestones is slower than a GT2... ok... we knew that already but they seem to feel like they've stuck automotive journalistic gold.
 
Result:
 
GT-R claim on Bridestones (dry): 7:38
GT2 claim (dry): 7:32
 
6 seconds faster
 
GT-R in the cold and wet on Bridgestones: 7:55
GT2 in the cold and wet: 7:49
 
6 seconds faster
 
Wow. Shocker.
 
This proves nothing about the GT-R on Dunlops, or how fast they are in the dry.
 
But this is exactly what Nissan claimed the results would be on those tires.
 
With both cars 17 seconds behind their claim, its only natural that if one would be faster than this, so would the other.
 
The only thing Sport Auto and Drivers Republic have managed to prove so far is that cars are not hovercraft. They slow down over water.

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