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Replying to: agitlits (Nov 06, 2009 2:24 pm) For those waiting for a "Class Action Lawsuit" to resolve their problem, don't hold your breath. As I pointed out in great detail in an earlier post (#325), you're apt to get little from such litigation. The lawyers will make it sound like they're on your side. However, the end result will be mega-bucks for them versus only (1) a discount on the repair costs and/or (2) a coupon voucher towards the future purchase of a Volvo for you. I think you're much better off attempting to resolve the problem on your own -- getting 100% of the cost covered versus pennies on the dollar. |
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Hey people, long story but I'll try to make it short. We purchased one of the original XC90 T6's. We love the car (great utility). Given, I'm the son of an auto mechanic and I'm also an engineer, I know to LISTEN to your car to make sure all is well. My wife is the primary driver of the car, but she'll just drive for miles without detecting strange noises to give her a clue that something is wrong with the vechile. So, whenever I do get an opportunity to drive it, I would listen to it for troubling sounds. Well the car would always make weird noises at the front, driver side. We serviced the car EXCLUSIVELY with Volvo. This has gone on for as long as we've owned the vehicle. Volvo would replace axle bearings, bushings, sway bar bushings, etc. etc. Most of it under warranty, so no big deal. However, the strange noises would never go away and would return after a short period. Fast forward, third gear gives out on the car at about 60K (notice how we are outside of the warranty period). So we bring the car to Volvo and, naturally, they say “You need a new transmission”. Trust me, I’ve got tons of experience with auto manufacturers and defects, and I know what to do. I’ve never visited the Volvo dealer to talk about the car with them, my wife does. But, I go over everything with her and she calls me when there’s a doubt about anything. So, she calls me to tell me the repair bill. I tell her, we’re not paying based simply on the fact that a transmission should not go out at 60k. Anyway, before it gets to the point where I need to get involved to personally start turning the screws, the head service rep says Volvo will cover the bill. This happened about 2 years ago. Get the car back and drive it over the next 2 years and eventually we hear the weird noises again. This time, I just attribute it to age of the car and that, perhaps, it needed a chassis lube, since the weird noises appeared to be suspension related. Recently, a front light head light bulb blows, and we take it to get it replaced. This shop is a non Volvo service center but manned by former Volvo techs (word of mouth sent us here). Again, it’s my wife who is talking to the rep, with me as an advisor/validator. Prior to going in, I tell her “Oh, btw, ask them about the strange noises.” (Mechanics intuition that something is not right about the car). The non Volvo authorized tech evaluates the car and says, what, Transmission. What else did you think we were going to say? LOL He also said Volvo has been having a nightmare with the trannies of the XC90 T6. At this point, I hit the net and this forum comes up, along with the fact that there’s a class action in progress. To sum this up, we’re getting another transmission put in with over 100k on the car. We’ve only ever serviced the car at Volvo, save for having that former Volvo tech “pop in” a blown bulb. So where does it stand. The problem here is that the transmissions of the XC90’s are not “fit for their intended purposes”. This is from the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code). Hint hint about more of my background... LOL Manufacturers are not going to be able to hide behind a warranty to get out of repairing their cars when they simply do not work as one would expect. Volvo knows this, but the question is does each individual Volvo owner know it and, hence, the reason why they (Volvo) are even fixing their cars. Do you think they would repair their car for free if they didn’t have to? Press your case and pray for the relief that's deserved. They tried to get us to pay a portion of the repair bill for the transmission but we flat out refused (or rather I refused. Behind the scenes, of course. LOL). No bargaining nor begging, simply refused. They caved in. So that’s three transmissions in 106K miles. Oh yea, another high end auto manufacturer that will repair their cars out of warranty is BMW. Do a search for "rear transaxle subframe defect in the E36 chassis (i.e., 3 series)". I owned one back in the early 90's. My rear transaxle of this car initially tore out at 27k miles. BMW fixed it for free. They repaired it again at 130K miles, all for free. The same thing happened to a colleague of mine in his E36 M3. BMW repaired it for free. Sooooooooooooo…. Get your cars fixed people. If they (the auto manufacturers) refuse, attack their reputation. The Internet is a wonderful thing, isn't it? LOL Btw, does anything remember that Audi 4000? Was this the one that would jump into gear and crash into walls with no explanation? I still remember that problem to this day. Audi is still reeling from that rumor. Me personally I would never by an Audi. Get the point…. Take care....
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Replying to: terminalac (Nov 14, 2009 7:58 am) |
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I was told by my dealership that I got one of the new Axels that are "enclosed" that will not allow the leak to happen which takes out the transmission. Is that what is going out the second and third times? How long have these "new" axels been holding out for before the next replacement? These axels have only been out the last 6 months to a year depending on location. (So I was told.) |
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Wife has a 2005 XC90 T6. Had no idea about the T6 issues before purchase as I made a rash decision during a dealer auction and decided she didnt need the V8 that I was going to bid on. Long story short. Out of warranty at 31k miles. Transmission gone today. Urgent transmission service light last night, dropped it off immediately, called by Freedom Volvo of Virginia Beach, Va at 9:00 am with the news......transmission gone. Before I could even ask......they state they will replace parts and all labor, one time only, free of charge. No idea if new tranny will be warrantied at all. Said they have fixed the tranny problem but it is too early to tell if the new replaced trannies will hold up. Gave me a loaner, but also reccomended I may want to unload it if I can. Wife loves the XC90 and based on customer service I received today, a new but unexpected V8 XC90 may be in my future. |
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| Volvo today returned the car replacing the tranny, radiator and hoses. Luckily they honored the extended warranty as the problem was first noticed while under warranty and then really died 2 week later once the warranty had expired. Anyone who has the transmission problem should fight to get their car repaired as Volvo is aware of the fault. They really don't want admit it. Fight to get it repaired. | |
New to the forum. Transmission slipping & jerking pretty bad. Checked messages and saw the Transmission Service Urgent. Stopped by local Volvo, BMW, Mercedes shop (not dealer) this morning. He says to change fluid & filter then see what happens. I just started reading the forum. Any advise on what to do?? Anyone from Atlanta area??? Nally has service my car in the past. Have not had many problems. I bought new and have had it for 6 1/2 years, 76,000 miles. Please help.
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Replying to: dawn28 (Nov 20, 2009 7:11 am) There were no previous warning signs, it just wouldn't accelerate, the urgent transmission service light came on and we towed it to the dealer. My car was at 45K miles and out of the 4 yr. warranty mark, but the dealer paid for the transmission rebuild, hoses, and radiator under their "good will" agreement. I also bought new and have only had the car serviced at the dealership, so that might be why they covered everything without an argument, which isn't fair. Good luck in whatever you decide, but check if the dealer will repair your car for free despite it being out of warranty. Just mention what you found on this site.
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Well, my Volvo xc90 T6 with 76,000 km on it has started leaking ATF. The Volvo dealership either did not notice it or decided to ignore it at 75,000 km service. I went to an independent Volvo mechanic who told me it appears to be the gasket. I will have to replace the gasket and ATF. I'm worried now that the ATF is going to be replaced my transmission will die shortly after. Any advice? I bought my car 2nd hand with 69,000 km on it and I found that the original transmission in it was replaced at 48,000 km. Hopefully this is a stronger one (or so dealer said). Thanks for any advice, Alex |
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Replying to: dawn28 (Nov 20, 2009 7:11 am) Until this happened, I loved my car, but this drives me crazy and makes me so mad at Volvo. I was about ready to buy a new XC90 AWD when the whole transmission thing happened and now just don't know what to buy and I certainly don't want to unload my '04 on some unsuspecting person. |
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