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Replying to: pcavell (Jul 21, 2009 12:35 pm) Yea, I hear you! I did the following as the second owner of an 2005. Apparently, the original owner on mine was a lease. 1. Write the Consumer Protection for your State. 2. Write the Attorney General for your State. 3. Write a complaint to Volvo- 4. Do the online complaint for NTSB. Do what you need to do. I did all of mine on line, either by forms or links thru email-and wrote scathing letters. This shouldn't be happening to any of us! I hope this helps and I'll hope for the best and cheapest outcome for you! Let me know if you need anything else! Lisa |
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My 2005 XC90 T6 has a little over 65,700 miles and the Service Trans Urgent light came on. I spent $140 to tow it to the dealer in Fayetteville, NC. They have ran diagnostics on the vehicle and told me the transmission needs to be replaced. I asked the dealership about a factory warranty - this car is not old and the mileage is low....the representative at the dealership told me they were waiting to hear back from Volvo to see if the transmission can be covered under the "good will" warranty through the company since my car has fairly low mileage and the services are up to date with Volvo dealerships. I am extremely concerned because this forum has been brought to my attention that this vehicle (T6) is notorious for having transmission problems at low mileage and owners must pay out of pocket for something that appears to me to be a flaw in the manufacturing. Volvo should recall these faulty transmissions and take responsibility for the trouble, safety and loss of money they are causing their customers. “Volvo for Life” only if you want to purchase a new transmission every 20-40k miles! I do plan to ask my dealership for more information because I have maintained the car at a Volvo certified mechanic; it has received every service suggested. This should not have happened. I sent a complaint to Volvo, NTSB and the Attorney General.
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Replying to: kboy41 (Jul 24, 2009 6:12 pm) Agreed, and please don't forget the Consumer Protection for your State. I think the more of us that complain, the father we will all get collectively as a group. It does bother me that Volvo calls this "Good Will" when we all concur this shouldn't even be happening at all. But like anything worth fighting for, you do have to endure. Following what I did and listed above worked for me and about seven other people, that I know of, so far, so lets hope it works for you as well. This handles the immediate issue. My concerns going forward is what happens if these "new and improved transmissions" fail as well, and we are out of warranty again? And how long will they last, I personally don't have a lot of faith that this new one will last, but that's my personal concern. Let us know how you make out with your dealer and Volvo. I'm hoping everything goes very well!!!! Lisa |
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Since mine was replaced completely free by the local dealer at 65K, it is a completely different car! I did pay for the software upgrade just before the complete failure. What I noticed it did was change the way the car shifts. Under heavy load, it will lift off the throttle between shifts, probably to try and save the clutches. In the early failures, they failed to replace the cooling lines and radiators and the metal shavings from the dead tranny would migrate into the new one and kill it very soon. This is now standard procedure with a T6 tranny replacement. Remember, Volvo recommends NO service to this tranny what so ever! I have seen a few posts from people that flushed their tranny and had it fail soon after. I was also surprised to see some make it past 100K! There is hope! I just hope mine holds together long enough to trade it in on a new V8 XC90! Sweet! NO GM trans! It is a great car and a great engine, just a bad GM (General Mistake) trans! I hope they found the internal problem and made changes to the new replacements. Volvo wants EVERY tranny returned to them still assembled. A strange note, someone else was in for the same thing at the same dealer, and they had an after market warranty. Their warranty company refused to let Volvo install their tranny. They insisted thet the dealer use their company's rebuilt unit with a lifetime warranty and unlimited mileage. They REFUSED to let Volvo replace the cooling lines or radiator! Wonder how long that one will last....with unlimited warranty, who cares! Maybe they know something Volvo doesn't....or they're just stupid.......??? I still want to know what Cadillac this trans is from??? Ironic thing, I bought my XC90 used from a Cadillac dealer! I also had to laugh at CARMAX offering more on a 04 XC90 if it didn't have a turbo???? All 04 XC90's had turbos!!! 5cyl has one, 6 cyl has TWO...go figure. Of all the cars I've owned, the only one to not ever leave me stranded somewhere....my 1958 Edsel! HA! Still have it! |
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Replying to: kboy41 (Jul 24, 2009 6:12 pm) |
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| My transmission went out at 88,000 miles on 1/1/09. I had an extended warranty which paid to replace it less the deductible. Today, on the hottest day of the year it went out again, and left me stranded on a switchback road, a very dangerous situation. After sitting for about five minutes with the engine off, I was able to turn it back on and drive the car home (probably 1,000 yards of less). My mileage is 95,000. I cannot believe that I had my new(new?) transmission for under six months, or 7,000 miles. My dilema is this: I believe it will be covered again, but am so sick of this and everything else that has gone wrong over the years, that I would love to get rid of the car. However, I can't afford a new car, nor would I want to see someone stuck with this one. Does anyone know if I could get another extended warranty? And, should I just go ahead and send letters to the four entities that have been referred to in earlier chats? | |
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Greetings, one and all. I accidentally stumbled upon this Volvo XC90 T6 forum while trying to get feedback on the just-released 3.2L version of the new 2010 Volvo XC60. I've read every message in this forum and re-read some of them. Being a car buff who diligently reads numerous car magazines, I must admit that this was the first I had heard of the Volvo XC90 T6 transmission problem. I am the original owner of a 2003 Volvo XC90 T6. It has low mileage for its age (56,500) and has been serviced exclusively at Volvo dealers. I used to live in rural Wisconsin -- 100 miles away from the Volvo dealer in Madison, who did not have evening or Saturday service hours, so service was a pain. I now live in South Florida within 35 miles of 2 Volvo dealers. Thus far (knock on wood), my 2003 Volvo XC90 T6's transmission seems fine. COMMENTS: (1.) It would appear that the GM transmission in T6 Volvo XC90's is prone to premature failure. Unfortunately, we don't know how prevalent the problem is. Lexus, Infiniti, Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes Benz, Honda, Toyota -- you name it -- have their share of "lemon"-related problems and also often drag their feet. (2.) I strongly agree with host STEVE (message #79) that, "Class action suits aren't so appealing if the lawyers make millions and the consumers get a $500 coupon off a new Volvo." Remember what happened when CBS-TV's "60 MINUTES" fabricated the Audi "unintended acceleration" problem? Audi values nose-dived. Lawyers made millions, but Audi owners got nothing more than vouchers. From personal experience, as a former stockholder, I was involved in a couple of "class action" lawsuits -- one for General Public Utilities (of Three Mile Island fame), the other for TYCO International (of Dennis Kozlowski fame). In the case of General Public Utilities, I lost about $3,000. Know what I got from the "class action" lawsuit? $2.31! In the more recent case of TYCO International, I lost a lot more money. When I got the "class action" lawsuit packet, I spent hours going through it to make sure it was even worth participating. Based upon the info provided by the lawyers, I calculated that I should get back about $2,000 or so if I partcipated. Perhaps more, perhaps less. So I went through the hassle of filling out all the paperwork, providing all the necessary documentation, sending a change of address letter when I moved, etc. Just a few months ago, I received a "settlement" letter. Guess what it said? There would be no checks issued for less than $10 and, since my settlement amount (which was never specified) was less than $10, I was getting nothing. Zilch! "Class action" lawsuits sound nice ... sound tough. "We're not gonna take it any more", etc. But CAVEAT EMPTOR. Personally, what I think we need to do is not enrich some lawyer(s) through a "class action" lawsuit, but get Volvo to: (a.) Recall all their XC90 T6's; (b.) Replace all XC90 T6 transmissions and radiators, etc. free of charge; (c.) Provide for free loaners while the work is being done; and (d.) Reimburse XC90 T6 owners who have already paid for such work (and related expenses) out of their own pockets. This is the right thing for Volvo to do -- most important ethically, but also from a long-term business point of view. Personally, I love my XC90 -- its styling (still fresh after 6 years; how often can you say that?); its safety features (current T6 transmission problem notwithstanding); its overall features and solidity; etc. I want a good reason to consider another Volvo in the future, as do (I suspect) several others in this forum. REQUEST FOR ADVICE: As I said, the transmission on my 2003 Volvo XC90 T6 with 56,500 miles seems to be fine. I had the 52,500 miles service done early -- at 50,000 miles (just before I moved from Wisconsin to Florida) -- and had an oil change a couple of days ago -- just before I stumbled upon this forum. Both were done at Volvo dealers. I was planning on going up north (Illinois, Michigan, etc.) for a few weeks later this month. Having read all the posts in this forum, I've gotten a bit paranoid -- i.e. will my transmission suddenly konk out and the dreaded "TRANSMISSION SERVICE URGENT" message appear on my instrument panel? I could take my other vehicle, a 2004 Honda Pilot, but -- frankly -- the Honda doesn't feel nearly as solid as the Volvo, does not have the side curtain airbags (despite being a year newer model), is not as comfortable, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, and my apologies in advance for taking up so much time and space. George |
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I have an 05' XC90 V8 with 50,200 miles. Took it in 2 months ago with complaint of occasional slip in transmission. I occas hear and feel a "clunk" underneath the car but other than that it does not give me any problems. Nothing was found but they did a software upgrade. It still clunks but it may occur 3x in a day or 3x in 2 weeks. Knowing my warrantee was expiring I took it back in and they could not reproduce the problem so there is nothing they can do. They car is fine but I am worried that this may be the first sign of future problems. They did say that since we took it in while the warrantee was in place and it is a documented complaint - if something happens Volvo should be able to help (whatever that means). Any other comments on the first symptoms others have had or does this sound like a transmission problem? Not sure if it is a T5, T6 (not sure what that is). My car is pretty well loaded with options. Thanks, RG |
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Replying to: rginnc (Aug 06, 2009 7:30 am)
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Replying to: yurko (Aug 06, 2009 10:31 am) |
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