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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [verot6] by buffdriver1
Jun 10, 2009 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: verot6 (Jun 04, 2009 5:44 am)

Dave,
 
Do you have any contact info for Mr. Green?
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [buffdriver1] by tidester HOST
Jun 10, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: buffdriver1 (Jun 10, 2009 8:57 am)

Incidentally, contact information should be shared by email rather than by posting in the Forums. Thought you'd like to know.
 
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Less Power Once Volvo Replaced Transmission? by VolvoAdvocate
Jun 10, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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My wife had her '03 T6 transmission replaced 4 mos. ago at 73k miles by Volvo (at their cost after major correspondance with corporate). She now says the car has less power then before, especially climbing hills. I checked with the dealer to see ifthey did something to reprogram the transmission to put less pressure (upshift earler?) on it, and they told me "the automatic transmission computer learns from your driving, and sets the shifting based on this. We do reset the computer when we replace teh transmission but it should have re-learned by now and have some power." Anyone else having similar problems or know more about this issue?
 
Thanks.
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Re: T6 Transmission [kari4] by bigfred2
Jun 11, 2009 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: kari4 (Mar 06, 2008 9:18 pm)

My 04 T6 tranny just failed. At 60 K it began slipping when cold, only for about 50' then grabbed and drove fine. 3k later, I got the dreaded "SERVICE TRANSMISSION URGENT" and the tranny would lock up in 4th gear (limp home mode). When I took it in to a reputable Volvo dealer, I explained to them I was aware of the T6 Tranny issue. After their standard diagnosis, it was indeed bad. Volvo replaced it 100% free of charge!!...BUT... you must push a bit!! Here's what you need to do for this to happen.....
If you get a bad tranny diagnosis, inform the service manager that you are aware of the problems with this tranny and that you want him to call Volvo and ask for help.
ALSO...tell them how much you love the car and other than the POS GM crappy tranny, you would get another. Also say this if the Volvo rep calls you...rare but they do on occasion.
Contrary to what they may say, Volvo IS aware of the problem and they will replace the radiator and cooling lines also to get the metal shavings out of the system. This is why there were faster failures with the first replacements.
There are TWO major failure points....one being the tranny just bites it, the other is the cooler leaks radiator fluid (glycol) into the tranny and kills it.
 
You may want to consider NOT touching the tranny!! Volvo recommends NOT doing anything to that tranny whatsoever! If you take it in for a bad tranny, and they find you have had the fluid changed or flushed, they may not help you out! There have been cases where trannys failed shortly after a "flush". A flush will stirr up all the crud from the bottom of the pan and it will get into the parts and fail faster! (their theory) Mine had NEVER been touched!
 
If changing the fluid helps, or running synthetic in it, I would think Volvo would have caught on by now so they don't have to keep changing them for free! These tranny's are not failing due to normal wear and tear, they are CRAP and just go all at once! When mine gets back in the garage, I will keep it for a year or two and trade it in on a new V8 XC90! More power, no turbos, no GM CRAP parts!
T6....Car good.....tranny CRAP!
The service mgr also told me that aftermarket service companies that sell extended warranty's will NOT use Volvo's replacement units, but their own rebuilds with unlimited lifetime warranty!! Unfortunately, they will not pay to have the cooling system replaced, so all the crud gets siphoned back into the new tranny! Their loss! I also read somewhere that a major tranny rebuilding company has changed some rebuild paramaters on these that supposedly fixes the problem.
I'm wondering....what GM car uses this tranny and does it have a high failure rate also? Some blame the T6's power on the failure, but the T6 doesn't have that much torque, so I don't buy that. Could be I'm just used to my other two cars, both pushing 400hp and close to 500 ftlb of torque!! That will break stuff!
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Re: T6 Transmission [bigfred2] by laws65
Jun 11, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: bigfred2 (Jun 11, 2009 3:38 pm)

Bigfred2,
 
It's that the low torque for the engine being a turbo, that this GM tranny can't hold up against it. I heard these tranny's were used in thousand of GM cars and rarely had failures, but none of them were turbo's -that I heard from my shop. Then again, some of the stuff they are telling all of us could be b.s.-we don't really know. We have to take their word on some things until they tell us or we find out other ways.
 
Interesting comment about the tranny flush. I have an 05 T6 had the fluid replaced in December 08, tranny started letting go late Jan 09 and then finally in Feb 09-But I worked at a Volvo dealer in my late teens/early twenties and that is routine service for the 60k-so why they are telling you not too is a mystery.
 
Great info...lets keep each other in the loop!!!!
 
Lisa
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [buffdriver1] by verot6
Jun 12, 2009 (3:11 am)
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Replying to: buffdriver1 (Jun 10, 2009 8:57 am)

Yes I do & I have contacted Mr. Green via e-mail already. I think someone who has experienced this problem while the car was still under a "factory warranty" is where Mr. Green wants to start to build the case. At least that was the impression I received.
 
www.carsurvey.org/reviews/volvo/xc90 where you will find a post on car survey dated Feb. 27, 09. that has Mr. Green's info.
 
I now have my car at the local shop getting my new transmission installed. I have seen the new tranny & the casing is stamped "Volvo" so I have faith its the real McCoy. The aftermarket rebuild company has identified the weakness & corrected them (hopefully).
 
I decided to pull my car from the dealership for several reasons. The service manager was playing dumb about the T6 problem & insisted I would have to pay for all diagnostics to prove the tranny was bad (they already new it was bad from the first diagnostics- $240 but wanted to proceed with a secondary test - pulling the pan & cutting the filter - $560)
 
I actually spoke with the Volvo Regional Manager ("the decision maker" according to Volvo corporate) who pushed the same about the diagnostics. He would not commit to anything until I was willing to come out of pocket $800 total (which I understand the dealer collects because they put out for the labor costs & corporate has'nt got anything to say about that)
 
The Service Manager & the Regional Rep. also had their stories crossed - The SM told the Reg. Rep that they wanted to "Flush & replace the filter" & added that they were going to charge me $25 a qt. for the new fluid & that was why the cost was so high....
 
Also the Reg. Rep went on to BS me that they have had cases like this where they flushed, replaced the filter & a solinoid or two & the transmission worked fine.
 
Bottom line for me was that it seemed no matter how hard I pushed (I filed all the complaints with all the right people) It was still going to cost me $800 up front. I had already paid $101 for diagnosis from another shop, gotten a second opinion for free from yet another shop (the one where my car is now) & then a third from a Volvo dealership plus many hours of my time. All confirming the same. But Volvo corporate was still in no way giving me any signs of hope.
 
It appears that the regional reps. try to be very subjective to your Volvo Commitment & base their decision on that (your allegiance to Volvo) & then & only then will you find out if you are one of the lucky ones to receive what they deem as "good will" towards a new transmission.
 
I am fed up with Volvo period. I hope there are many others out there that feel the same. I would like to know how many of us out there were TURNED AWAY by Volvo? How many "out of warranty" were replaced by Volvo No Charge? How many have taken it to their own shop for repairs? How many are willing to contact Mr. Green (class action attorney)
 
Enough is enough. Volvo should send out a mass recall of all XC90 T6's transmissions. Those of us who did'nt get a "Free" transmission & have out of pocket expenses should be reimbursed.
 
 
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XC90 T6 Tranmission problems by shlimp
Jun 13, 2009 (8:21 pm)
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AT 77,000 miles our check transmission light came on. We took it to our normal mechanic since we do not have a Volvo Dealer in Corpus Christi, TX. He Said the transmission is bad. I took it home and found this web discussion. I contacted Laws65 ( Lisa) and she told me the process to get it fixed. I wrote to the Volvo corporate on line and they said it has to be diagnosed by a Volvo Dealer. I have three choices Austin, San Antonio, or McAllen, TX. I chose to drive it 150 miles with a bad transmission to McAllen. (I had alot of people on ready for my call when the car broke down) I made it to MCAllen. It took them a day to diagnose the problem. BAD TRANSMISSION. I told them that I did not have $7,000 dollars to pay. So, I drove it back to Corpus to sit in the garage for a long time. Then I wrote corporate again. They talked to McAllen Volvo and they said that they they would fix it 100% no charge. Bring it in they said. So I did It took them 2 weeks to get the transmission and fix the car. We got it back on monday and it is running fine so far.
 
The process is have your car checked by a volvo dealer and then write corporate they will contact your dealer and then call you back. The whole process took 4 weeks to have a new transmission with a 1 year warranty.
 
Allen
 
By the way thanks Lisa it worked out good for me!!!!!
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reply to Allen by laws65
Jun 14, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: shlimp (Jun 13, 2009 8:21 pm)

Yea!!!!! Great job! I like to make sure when something like this happens that corporations know how serious I am and I'm glad it worked out for all of us thus far. My only concern going forward is what happens after the one year warranty.... but one step at a time!
Congrats, great job!!!!
 
Lisa
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [verot6] by Milosanta
Jun 15, 2009 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: verot6 (Jun 04, 2009 5:44 am)

What is the contact information for the attorney, Mr. Green. I have replaced 2 transmission in my 90. Fortunately mine was still under warranty. Thanks.
 
Mike
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [Milosanta] by verot6
Jun 15, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: Milosanta (Jun 15, 2009 6:24 am)

You should get this infor from the following link below. Due to the fact that Edmunds doesnt allow the exchange of e-mail addresss on this forum. If that doesnt work try me back.
 
VeroT6
  
www.carsurvey.org/reviews/volvo/xc90 where you will find a post on car survey dated Feb. 27, 09. that has Mr. Green's info.

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