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Replying to: mancej (Jun 03, 2009 10:04 pm) ORIGINAL MESSAGE & REPLY BELOW Good morning Mr. Green, "I understand you are possibly forming a case to file a suit against Volvo North America regarding the many defective transmissions in the XC90. T6. I'm currently battling with Volvo to repair/replace mine. My situation is exactly like that of all the others who have posted on the forum www.edmonds.com Would having my transmission fixed on my own preclude me from being eligible to participate in a class action suit should there be one? I have been documenting all things as I go along. Please advise & also tell me what the next steps would or could be from you in a law suit of this nature." Respectfully requesting your guidance, Dave Morby Vero Beach, FL RESPONSE "We would consider filing suit on behalf of someone whose transmission failed during warranty. I don't know if that includes your or not. In any event, paying for the repairs yourself would not preclude you from participating in a class action. You would want the shop to preserve any evidence, though." Robert Green
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Just found out that my dealer will not have the transmission in until July 10th -- I can't complain though, in addition to paying for the new transmission, Volvo is paying for a rental car -- which I will probably have for at least 5-6 weeks.
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Replying to: sahughes (Jun 04, 2009 3:05 pm) I'm very curious as the area rep, local service manager & Volvo N.A. say that until I have to prove (pay $$$ for all the diagnostics) that its a defective transmission before they will even consider if I qualify as a "good will" candidate. No offering of anything at this point. I'm starting to feel like a broken record, round & round & round again...... verot6
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HI, I bought mine used from a wholesaler in March 2008 with 59k miles on it. From what my wholesaler told me there was no record of a transmission failure prior to them purchasing it at auction. They are the ones who took the car to the Volvo dealer for me, I wasn't involved. So, whether the good will was for them or me, I'm not sure. When the transmission went, I was out of my 60 day used car warranty and had like 71k miles on it at the time it was replaced. But I did file complaints with: 1. Attorney General for the state 2. Consumer Protection 3. Volvo contact us on line 4. NTSB And spoke to an attorney. The car was gone six weeks, but I didn't pay anything. But I did let my wholesale place know I was going to make a stink with Volvo, and I even worked at a volvo dealership locally when I was a teenager. I doubt that made a difference. My wholesaler had done a transmission fluid flush/change in December 2008, and within a month I had problems. They recommended I do a transmission upgrade which I told them was just plain bull -I know cars better than that. They said they would see what they could do with Gengras Volvo in CT and the rest is history...... Lisa |
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Replying to: verot6 (Jun 05, 2009 2:55 am) |
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As I was watching the Stanley cup playoff's last night my phone rang. On the other end was my beautiful wife. In a concerned voice I heard, "Honey, what does a Transmission Urgent light mean?" After a couple google hits and an hour or so reading I do believe I can be part of the club. We purchased an 05' xc90, used-with warranty, from a dealer in CO. Currently has 63k miles. We now are in Northern ND, 16 hrs away from the dealership we purchased it from, 8 hrs from the closest dealership in Minneapolis. This should be fun. ~sigh~ I will follow some of the advice here and let you know how things progress. BuffDriver1 |
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Replying to: verot6 (Jun 04, 2009 5:44 am) Do you have any contact info for Mr. Green?
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Replying to: buffdriver1 (Jun 10, 2009 8:57 am)  tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper |
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My wife had her '03 T6 transmission replaced 4 mos. ago at 73k miles by Volvo (at their cost after major correspondance with corporate). She now says the car has less power then before, especially climbing hills. I checked with the dealer to see ifthey did something to reprogram the transmission to put less pressure (upshift earler?) on it, and they told me "the automatic transmission computer learns from your driving, and sets the shifting based on this. We do reset the computer when we replace teh transmission but it should have re-learned by now and have some power." Anyone else having similar problems or know more about this issue? Thanks. |
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Replying to: kari4 (Mar 06, 2008 9:18 pm) If you get a bad tranny diagnosis, inform the service manager that you are aware of the problems with this tranny and that you want him to call Volvo and ask for help. ALSO...tell them how much you love the car and other than the POS GM crappy tranny, you would get another. Also say this if the Volvo rep calls you...rare but they do on occasion. Contrary to what they may say, Volvo IS aware of the problem and they will replace the radiator and cooling lines also to get the metal shavings out of the system. This is why there were faster failures with the first replacements. There are TWO major failure points....one being the tranny just bites it, the other is the cooler leaks radiator fluid (glycol) into the tranny and kills it. You may want to consider NOT touching the tranny!! Volvo recommends NOT doing anything to that tranny whatsoever! If you take it in for a bad tranny, and they find you have had the fluid changed or flushed, they may not help you out! There have been cases where trannys failed shortly after a "flush". A flush will stirr up all the crud from the bottom of the pan and it will get into the parts and fail faster! (their theory) Mine had NEVER been touched! If changing the fluid helps, or running synthetic in it, I would think Volvo would have caught on by now so they don't have to keep changing them for free! These tranny's are not failing due to normal wear and tear, they are CRAP and just go all at once! When mine gets back in the garage, I will keep it for a year or two and trade it in on a new V8 XC90! More power, no turbos, no GM CRAP parts! T6....Car good.....tranny CRAP! The service mgr also told me that aftermarket service companies that sell extended warranty's will NOT use Volvo's replacement units, but their own rebuilds with unlimited lifetime warranty!! Unfortunately, they will not pay to have the cooling system replaced, so all the crud gets siphoned back into the new tranny! Their loss! I also read somewhere that a major tranny rebuilding company has changed some rebuild paramaters on these that supposedly fixes the problem. I'm wondering....what GM car uses this tranny and does it have a high failure rate also? Some blame the T6's power on the failure, but the T6 doesn't have that much torque, so I don't buy that. Could be I'm just used to my other two cars, both pushing 400hp and close to 500 ftlb of torque!! That will break stuff!
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