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reply to Verot6 by laws65
Jun 02, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Feel free to use any of the techniques that I used as well. If the dealership starts pushing on you, push right back and let them know you who you are complaining to and that you won't let up. You shouldn't have to pay for this, not even the diagnosis!
 
Lisa
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [beth36093] by Milosanta
Jun 02, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: beth36093 (May 27, 2009 9:21 am)

The XC 90 is a great car, but heed the advise of buy a 206 or later model. I posted on here back in November of 2008, when I had to put my second tranny in the car. The first one went our at 61000, and at that time I was told by the mechanic that is was a design flaw in the car. The T6 (which is the turbo) engine puts to much torque on the tranny, which is a GM product and only a 4 speed. At the 67,000 mark I had to put in the second tranny. Now I was luck b/c my car was still under warranty. This time I was told that the first tranny, which was put in by a Volvo dealership, was done incorrectly. When they put the new tranny in they are suppose to change out the radiator coolant hose also, b/c metal shavings can get in there and the tranny is cooled by this. The service I got at both locations was exceptional, but the car is flawed and there is really nothing that can be done to fix it except keep putting in trannys. I also wrote to Volvo corporate who contacted me but gave me no satisfaction. I also lodged a complaint with the NTSB. So bottom line don't buy a XC90 T6 and you will be ok. Good luck.
 
Mike
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Re: reply to Verot6 [laws65] by verot6
Jun 02, 2009 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: laws65 (Jun 02, 2009 10:44 am)

Lisa, looks like they (the dealership) that I will need to pay an additional $560 to drop the transmission pan & cut the filter to see whats happening inside. That makes $800 in less than 24 hrs. for "diagnostics" which Volvo N.A. Rep told the dealer that is my responsibility to pay for & find out what is wrong - we all know what is wrong...
 
The rep also said that since I was not a "Volvo Customer" (bought the car used from third party) had not ever been in a dealership for service (I am not the original owner & it appears to me that at first reason since I bought the car that I have had, I am "in for service" right now).
 
That I was probably not a good candidate for any "Good Will" from Volvo. The service manager told me himself that this is what Volvo Rep told him, the service manager do say on his own that he felt 90% sure that they would help in some way but I would need to commit to paying for the additional diagnostics. I refused.
 
He explained that i really had only two choices, pay or pick up my car & have someone else repair it with no chance of any Volvo $upport!
 
So hypothetically at the end of the day $800 spent & I still would'nt know if they would help me. My fear is I agree to the extra $$, they break it down & say "yep your going to need a transmission" & "that will cost $6,000 but Volvo will split it with you".
 
Now I would be out close to $4,000 & have another "factory transmission" . . . . . .
 
My local Sweedish mechanic has a newly rebuilt - improved trany in a crate at his shop with 2yr. unlimited mile warranty waiting to put it in for $5,000 he will also take care of the rear main seal while he's got it out (says around 100k miles it needs to be done anyway)
 
I am now close to three weeks with out a car & not close to having a warm fuzzy about Volvo's help. How loud do I need to get & in whose direction to I need to be yelling? The dealer is just in the middle but Volvo N.A. says nothing happening unless I play their game.
 
I am almost ready to throw in the towel
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [kari4] by jld6
Jun 03, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: kari4 (Apr 13, 2008 7:38 pm)

Count me in. Just happened to me on mine. Was talking to my boss Friday who has the identical car and happened to him a week ago. Took his to the dealer, raised hell, pointed out all these posts and internet press on unacceptable transmission failures. He was able to get paid by local Volvo or someone so he faed no expense. The precedence is out there for local Volvo dealer or customer service to pay so they cannot use that excuse. I am starting process now. I will keep you all posted. I am in if there is a class action!!!
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 by mancej
Jun 03, 2009 (10:04 pm)
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I'm in:
2004 VOLVO XC90
1. Since day 1, the transmission on my 2004 Volvo-XC90 has been acting weird, it doesn't engage trough gear as quickly as it should. On May 25th 2009, the transmission completely went out leaving me in the middle of the intersection with cars behind me traveling 35 miles and almost caused an accident. The car has been sitting since then.
2. The transmission has never operated properly since I purchased the car in April of 2009.
3. I do not have an extended warranty and so the car waiting now for repair.
 The shop and every other one I called knew exactly what the problem was.
They said that the transmission in this model and year was a faulty GM transmission and have seen many in for this type of service.
 I did some research on the Internet and found that many owners have experienced the same problem, the exact problem.
 I bought my car with 112,000 miles on it and some of the complaints I found on the Internet reported were as low as 20,000 miles.
I bought it from AutoWest Acura in San Jose, I ask them for help with that matter, (4 times) they were evasive and refused to help, or to get to any arrangement.
The "transmission service urgent" light came on. Took the car to the dealer and they said I need a new transmission. There seems to be a large number of these same complaints for this same car from Volvo.
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Re: Class action against Volvo regarding T6 [mancej] by verot6
Jun 04, 2009 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: mancej (Jun 03, 2009 10:04 pm)

Her is my e-mail that I sent yesterday to the attorney that is possibly interested in the "class action suit" against Volvo. Somebody who meets his criteria (I know there are many of you out there) get in touch with him & see if we can get this thing going.
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE & REPLY BELOW
Good morning Mr. Green,
 
"I understand you are possibly forming a case to file a suit against Volvo North America regarding the many defective transmissions in the XC90. T6.
 
I'm currently battling with Volvo to repair/replace mine. My situation is exactly like that of all the others who have posted on the forum www.edmonds.com
 
Would having my transmission fixed on my own preclude me from being eligible to participate in a class action suit should there be one?
 
I have been documenting all things as I go along.
 
Please advise & also tell me what the next steps would or could be from you in a law suit of this nature."
 
Respectfully requesting your guidance,
 
Dave Morby
Vero Beach, FL
 
RESPONSE
"We would consider filing suit on behalf of someone whose transmission failed during warranty. I don't know if that includes your or not. In any event, paying for the repairs yourself would not preclude you from participating in a class action. You would want the shop to preserve any evidence, though."
 
Robert Green
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delay in new transmission by sahughes
Jun 04, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Just found out that my dealer will not have the transmission in until July 10th -- I can't complain though, in addition to paying for the new transmission, Volvo is paying for a rental car -- which I will probably have for at least 5-6 weeks.
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Re: delay in new transmission [sahughes] by verot6
Jun 05, 2009 (2:55 am)
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Replying to: sahughes (Jun 04, 2009 3:05 pm)

sorry if your repeating this info but did you buy new, used from the dealer or third party.... whats been your history/relationship with your local Volvo dealership? is this your first transmission, what year is the car, who made the ultimate decision to pay for your transmission...Volvo North America, Volvo Area Rep or the dealership? any warranty on your car, how many miles......
 
I'm very curious as the area rep, local service manager & Volvo N.A. say that until I have to prove (pay $$$ for all the diagnostics) that its a defective transmission before they will even consider if I qualify as a "good will" candidate. No offering of anything at this point.
 
I'm starting to feel like a broken record, round & round & round again......
 
verot6
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verot6 by laws65
Jun 05, 2009 (3:12 am)
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HI,
 
I bought mine used from a wholesaler in March 2008 with 59k miles on it. From what my wholesaler told me there was no record of a transmission failure prior to them purchasing it at auction. They are the ones who took the car to the Volvo dealer for me, I wasn't involved. So, whether the good will was for them or me, I'm not sure. When the transmission went, I was out of my 60 day used car warranty and had like 71k miles on it at the time it was replaced. But I did file complaints with:
1. Attorney General for the state
2. Consumer Protection
3. Volvo contact us on line
4. NTSB
 
And spoke to an attorney. The car was gone six weeks, but I didn't pay anything. But I did let my wholesale place know I was going to make a stink with Volvo, and I even worked at a volvo dealership locally when I was a teenager. I doubt that made a difference. My wholesaler had done a transmission fluid flush/change in December 2008, and within a month I had problems. They recommended I do a transmission upgrade which I told them was just plain bull -I know cars better than that. They said they would see what they could do with Gengras Volvo in CT and the rest is history......
 
Lisa
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Re: delay in new transmission [verot6] by sahughes
Jun 05, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: verot6 (Jun 05, 2009 2:55 am)

I bought mine used 4 months ago from a non-volvo dealer. It had slightly over 50K miles. Now it has 55K when the transmission went out last week, It was towed to our local Volvo dealer -- I had never been there before. They diagnosed the transmission and after 2 phone calls to me (I informed them I was aware of the transmission issue from info. I receievd on this blog) the service rep called me and said Volvo would pay 100%. I will have to pay nothing -- and Volvo is paying my rental car.

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