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Volvo XC90 T6 Transmission

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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [laws65] by carguy85
May 22, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: laws65 (May 20, 2009 8:20 am)

There is no such thing as a "local independent Authorized Volvo repair facility. If it isn't a dealer; it's not an authorized Volvo Cars facility. It's an independent shop. FYI
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [verot6] by laws65
May 22, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: verot6 (May 20, 2009 1:33 pm)

HI Verto6,
 
I purchased mine used as well, only a year ago, so I took it back to the wholesaler that I purchased it through, complained to them and everyone in my original email to you. I wasn't about to pay for that! I told them I would call the bank to come and get it with a bad transmission! Then I think they knew I was serious.
 
I think Volvo is just trying to pass as much of this off for as long as they can, hence why all the written and the more written complaints, the better. WE might be able to force a recall!
 
Keep pushing!
 
Lisa
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [laws65] by verot6
May 26, 2009 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: laws65 (May 22, 2009 9:09 am)

Thanks, I had'nt even thought of a reply to the seller. It was a specialty wholesaler(internet) with a "as is" document in the final sale.... I am going to finish the compalints. I already sent one to FL. A.G. I think I will call the wholesaler I bought it from.
 
I need my transportation so I've put it in the shop of a very well respected foreign auto repairs in town. Hope to get money back someday....
 
I too thought about walking away...... but! I like the car.
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Keep complaining by laws65
May 26, 2009 (9:34 am)
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Yes, I bought mine from a wholesaler last year too. I think they were a little worried, esp if you financed through them. Then their on the hook to a certain financial extent. Keep complaining though, most have on line complaint forms and it's quick and easy!
Good luck!
 
Lisa
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [verot6] by luvmyvolvo
May 26, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: verot6 (May 26, 2009 9:19 am)

Verot6,
 
I'd be curious to find out what your foreign auto repair shop said caused the transmission failure in the first place. I was told by the dealer that they could not pin point the source of the failure, that is why a recall cannot be done. I think more people should bring their cars to independent volvo specialists to identify the problem to build a stronger case against volvo manufactoring. The dealerships are basically putting the same rebuilt transmission back into people's cars at the owners cost.
 
Let me know what your shop finds and hopefully other mechanics will come to the same conclusion and we can push for a recall.
 
I too like the car, despite all it's inherent problems!
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [luvmyvolvo] by verot6
May 26, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: luvmyvolvo (May 26, 2009 9:52 am)

Well at first inspection I was told that the transmission fluid appeared to have "air bubbles" which ment a breach in a seal or connection somewhere? also the fluid has a very bad "burnt" smell to it (I smelled it myself) but other than the "computer diagnosis" that said the transmission was in "limp mode" no other symptoms until they pull it out (by the way I'm told requires dropping the engine...) no woder it is so expensive.
 
My mechanic has found a "improved" version of this transmission from an out of state shop who's specialty is transmissio rebuilds. Comes with 2 yr. unlimeted mile warranty (wow) hopefully I wont need to test it.
 
He also forwarned me that there may be unforseen damage but wont know until they get torn apart. I have decided to go ahead & have the main engine seals replaced while they got it torn own to save on future labor costs. It was also reccomended that they will put full synthetic fluid in the newly rebuilt (not the one they are pulling out of my car, straight off the bench.
 
Anyone who knows more please chime in. I've also been told if yours hasnt gone yet & its got less miles than max. life (around 60k I'm told) you should have it flushed & put in the full synthetic. It may make a difference.
 
As soon as I know more I will continue to share information.......
 
Wish me luck. I am so praying this gets me back on the road for many, many more miles. If I can get another 100K miles (plus the 18K that I already drove it -it had 57k miles on it when I bought it) thats 175K divide that by what I paid (used $14,000) & the trnsmission ($5k) thats about $6.21 per mile cost for just the car & the new tranny......
 
Oh well you gotta laugh a little so it doesnt hurt when you get he repair bills. However I do agree the more we write letters & compile information on this "defect" we all may stand a chance to recoup some or all of our losses.
 
VeroT6
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rebuilt better than replaced... by kari4
May 26, 2009 (8:15 pm)
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So, I have had to also get a new tranny put in my xc90 (no surprise there really) I heard from my mechanic that it is actuallly better to rebulid than replace with the same peice of junk?? that when they rebulid, they rebuild it with the specifications that better suit the torque that the motor is putting out?? I have no idea but I have heard of people having to replace time after time and am wondering if anyone who has had a re build has also had to have it done again??
 
Would get rid of this hunk of junk in a heart beat but now EVERYONE knows about the T6 so not only do we have a lemon, we are stuck with it because no one else would EVER buy it off us... Volvo for life?? Damn right, thanks to the T6.
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [laws65] by beth36093
May 27, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: laws65 (May 20, 2009 8:20 am)

I have never owned a Volvo and am looking at a 2004 XC90 T6AWD. However, I have been reading some of the conversations on this vehicle and have become quite leary. Can anyone tell me more about this vehicle?
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To Beth36093 by laws65
May 27, 2009 (9:27 am)
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I wouldn't waste your money. Tranny replacements every 20k are common, way too common, along with other major money replacement parts. But one that's newer than 2005, or don't bother-but just my opinion....
We've all had too many problems.
 
Lisa
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Re: '03 T6 "No reverse" [laws65] by gsquared1
May 27, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: laws65 (May 20, 2009 8:20 am)

Lisa,
 
Wanted to thank you for the information you provided as my XC90's tranny went on Sunday as soon the the vehicle reached the 70,000 mile mark. Like clock work the Transmission Service Urgent message appeared and the vehicle would not shift out of 3rd gear. Of course the day I took it to the dealer to be looked at it ran nice with little transmission jerking from 1st to 2nd gear. Anyway, I educated myself on the XC90 over the past few days and went to the dealer and played the part of the uneducated consumer. Then once they told me I needed a new transmission and it would cost $6500 I started to ask the questions about this being a known issue and reading the message boards and seeing that Volvo sometimes covers some of or all the costs. The service rep advised me that the service manager would need to review this and said they would call me back the next day when he returns to the office. In the meantime I filed a complaint with the NTSB, Volvo Corporate and the NJ Attorney General. The next morning the dealer had called me and advised they would assist with the cost of the repair and took the price down to $2750 which to me was extremely helpful and I told them to set it up since the transmissions are on back order. Later in the day Volvo corporate called me and advised they received my complaint from the following evening. They asked some questions and advised they would be calling the Volvo dealer I was working with. Much to my surprise Volvo corporate called me 30 minutes later and advised that they would cover the cost of the new transmission, equipment and labor. I couldn't believe my ears. So the moral of the story, I guess it pays to raise your complaints as Volvo has been extremely responsive and the customer service experience from Volvo corporate and the dealer has been very impressive. Also I guess this is proof that Lisa's suggestion was not a once off fix as I did exactly what she outlined and got a response and a new transmission from Volvo within 24 hours of my logging a complaint to them. In this day and age its great to see a company like Volvo standing behind their product and admitting they have a fault and will do whatever is necessary to correct it. So those of you in need of the standard XC90 transmission replacement, ask the questions, write to Volvo and be heard cause I guess its true that if you don't ask you will never get it.
 
Gary

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