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#9 of 24 Re: Jeep Wrangler bad product [dissapointed3]
Mar 23, 2008 (8:20 am)
We own a 2008 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara and I absolutly love it. We havn't had any problems yet (knock on wood), except for the amp screwing up, but all it needed was to be reflashed. I don't find it underpowered at all for normal driving. If you plan on towing all the time with this thing, then get something else. I'm sorry about the problems you are experiencing with your wrangler, but I'm just saying, don't judge the vehicle by just one example. Sure other people have had other problems, but so far, my jeep isn't one of them and alot of other people also don't have any problems, or have only had minor stuff. And I know, beause I'm a member at jk-forum, where you can find many JK owners who love their wranglers and wouldn't trade them in for another vehicle. Anyway, I would recomend the wrangler 100% to those who don't expect it to ride like a caddy, accelerate like it has a hemi or have the creature comforts typical to other suvs.
#10 of 24 Re: Jeep Wrangler bad product [garou89]
Mar 26, 2008 (2:50 pm)
Just purchased an automatic equipped 08 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. After 200 miles (highway mpg 19.1) installed cold air induction system and MagnaFlow low restriction muffler. Performance increased significantly w/ an indicated highway mpg of 24.5. I know, hard to believe (the mpg increase).
#11 of 24 Re: Wrangler Hits Rock Bottom [mac24]
May 09, 2008 (2:48 pm)
Im the proud new owner of a 2008 Rubicon Unlimited that I got about a month ago.
I would NEVER go by ANYTHING that Consumer Reports says.
Ride ...Rides just fine for the vehicle it is IMO
handling ... Im not cutting corners or running laps at the Nurburgring. It handles just fine on public roads at posted speed limits and wonderful off pavement.
braking ... Brakes are just fine. I wouldn't expect an SUV like this to stop on a dime anyway.
noise ...I have the soft top on my and wind noise is evident at 50mph+. Not as bad as CR makes it seem. Besides, my Rubicon came with the upgraded audio system so I don't even notice it much.
fuel economy ...I have to admit it isn't great. Then again your driving a two ton SUV with the aerodynamics of a chinese food take-out container. It all depends how you drive and how heavy your foot is. Like someone said before, EPA ratings are right on the window sticker so don't be suprised after you take delivery.
fit and finish ...Your driving an open top SUV with the best off-roading capability current on the consumer market. Most people, like I, off road these. If you do this with the top off eventually your interior might get a bit dirty due to exposure of the elements(dirt,mud, dust,etc.). Nice thing about the jeep is all you need is a hose & towel for most cleaning. "YES" cloth seats are stain, water, dust resistant and there are even drain plugs under the carpeting. Best thing is that after you leave the car parked for a while in the hot sun, the seats don't get really hot as they would with leather/leatherett or other materials.
visibility ... Great visibility IMO. Great view over the hood, windows are near shoulder level, and trucks sit high(especially on Rubicon), so I don't get what they're implying here.
frontseat comfort ...Seats are good. Sure, they aren't as comfortable as the lazy boys you find on an Escalade or QX but they do just fine.
access ...Don't know what they mean by that.
reliability ...I've only had mine for almost a month and a half so I can't really say.
Those are my views on the Wrangler. Just a little info about me and my history with cars so you can better understand where Im coming from on most of my opinions and what I'm used to.
I work at a large dealership in New Jersey that sells Porsche, Jaguar, & Aston Martin. Next door to the building I work in we also carry other brands like Mercedes Benz, Infiniti, Maybach, & Smart.
I drive fast luxury cars on a very regular basis. I've driven so many cars I can't keep count. Just a couple weeks ago I went for a spin in a new 530hp GT2. Yesterday it was a 500HP Cayenne Turbo. Two hours ago it was a XF. I've driven trade-ins that range anywhere from SRT-10 Vipers to 360 Modenas to M5s & Z06s & Maseratis etc.
My cars of the past have all been of the sporty type.
I've had an '86 Porsche 944(AutoX car), a 2004 Dodge srt-4, and just recently sold me '06 Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR edition.
In other words I've driven almost everything out there. I know the difference between a $100,000 500HP Cayenne Turbo & and $33,000 202HP Jeep Wrangler.
It is my first SUV and so far I love it. All my past cars that I've owned were fun to drive and this one isn't that different, just a different type of "fun".
With my past cars, if I listened to everyone on every car I got and took their advice on why this car isn't good and why that one isn't recommended, I would've seriously regretted not getting them.
Before I got my 944 people would tell me that It was a unreliable POS. I never had one problem with it and to date it is still my favorite car i've ever owned and I regret getting rid of it(high insurance cost reasons).
Before I got my new SRT-4 people would tell me that it was a POS neon and it would have nothing but problems. It ended up being ANOTHER reliable car which was really fast(modified) and that I also regretted selling.
Before I baught my new IX MR I noticed not much bad things was said or written on it. It was a great car with better performance than alot of $100,000+ sports cars on my market. Although other publications like Consumer Reports mentioned how it was an "unconfortable" car and that it wasn't an good every day car. I used it every day and loved it. Cut around traffic really well, got to work fast, had 4 doors, & the AWD meant that with a tire swap it could be driven all year.
Sorry for the long post but what I'm trying to say is that you can't really go by everything some of these guys say because in the end most of it is false. It is very easy to badmouth something, it is another to experience it.
I'm happy I didn't listen to those like Consumer Reports in the past.
Sorry for the rant.
#12 of 24 Wranglers - New Respect
Sep 21, 2008 (5:46 am)
I just returned from the Ouray Jamboree and I have a new found respect for my Jeep. Not in it's offroad prowess, that much we knew, but how it handles the road. It was a 1,200 mile trip. My stock 06 Unlimited Rubicon never got below 18, yes that's right, 18 MPG. At one point it was over 22 - but I think that was mostly from coasting down the million dollar highway. To be fair, I never went about 70 on the freeway - even when posted was 75.
The seats were supportive, the ride was fine and it actually cornered in the winding mountain highway better than I ever thought possible. I rand down other cars and trucks and even had to pass them - never exceeding posted limits, just so ya' know I was driving it civil. Windshield wipers are useless (thank you RainX).
To this point my Jeep was a commuter; never took it on a road trip. Loaded with coolers, tools, luggage, etc.. it did just fine... and with better MPG than my Tahoe.
#13 of 24 Re: Jeep Wrangler bad product [woodyman1]
Sep 28, 2008 (12:19 pm)
I purchased an 07 Unlimited Sahara in September of 06 an now have over 35k miles. I maintain a log of gas MPG and see a low of 16 and a high of 21. The 21 was during a long highway trip. Average MPG is about 17. My question concerns your choice of cold air induction. What brand did you choose? and why? Also I am not fimiluar with a MagnaFlow muffler.
Aug 31, 2009 (8:07 pm)
starting to negotiate for an 09 wrangler unlimited.....how do I make sure that I am seeing the actual dealers invoice?
#15 of 24 Re: first wrangler [firstwrangler]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 31, 2009 (9:41 pm)
Edmunds has invoice prices under the New Cars tab. Our numbers should correspond with Kelley and MSN and the rest.
What the dealer actually pays for a car is another story. No one really knows, and the owner of the dealership may not even know until the accountants balances the books.
Dealers get kickbacks, spiffs, hood money, bonuses, trips and cruises, free training, financing credits, and who knows what else.
Check out Jeep Wrangler Prices Paid and Buying Experience.
Sep 20, 2009 (9:53 am)
To the owners of the Jeep brand whoever you are. Have a warranty, have a lifetime extended warranty. You took away my dealership. Three local dealerships, not one service writer or service person drives a wrangler. At the time of our purchase, our saleslady and the sales manager drove wranglers. Do you intend to turn jeeps into patiots and compasses. I know real men don't let anybody, unless they trust them, touch their machines but...
Sep 22, 2009 (9:17 am)
I purchased a 2007 in September of 2006. It was one of the first on the road in my area. Two weeks later my wife and I drove to North Carolina (over a 9 hour drive) . Even with a back problem I was able to get out and walk unhindered by cramps. These are great seats. Mileage is now at 50k and MPG is between 16 and 18 on average. Highway is always above 20.
#18 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave]
Sep 22, 2009 (10:41 am)
I have a 97. No warranty and it hasn't seen a dealer since I had it inspected prior to purchase back in 03. Your point?
As long as there is a good demand for Wranglers, I don't see Jeep killing off the golden calf...