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#18 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave] by erickpl Sep 22, 2009 (10:41 am)
Replying to: tired_old_dave (Sep 20, 2009 9:53 am) I have a 97. No warranty and it hasn't seen a dealer since I had it inspected prior to purchase back in 03. Your point?   As long as there is a good demand for Wranglers, I don't see Jeep killing off the golden calf...   -Paul Replies to this message: tired_old_dave (Sep 22, 2009 5:07 pm) erickpl (Sep 23, 2009 8:37 am) mac24 (Sep 24, 2009 6:18 am) and 1 more... mac24 (Sep 24, 2009 6:05 am)
#19 of 24 Re: Fiat [erickpl] by tired_old_dave Sep 22, 2009 (5:07 pm)
Replying to: erickpl (Sep 22, 2009 10:41 am) "Your Point" Glad you had the knowledge, money, and a good '97 to never need to see the dealer. So far just the alignment, but it would have been nice to talk to dealer employees who love the wrangler they drive. Replies to this message: erickpl (Sep 23, 2009 8:37 am) mac24 (Sep 24, 2009 6:18 am) roadburner (Sep 24, 2009 8:02 am) mac24 (Sep 24, 2009 6:05 am)
#20 of 24 Re: Ray [roxborough63] by tired_old_dave Sep 22, 2009 (5:12 pm)
Replying to: roxborough63 (Sep 22, 2009 9:17 am) Ditto on the seating Although not nine hour, our little trips so far don't kill us or my bad back. I think some of it is the suspension/tires and the height of the seat from the floor pan. The seats don't seem to be extraordinary.
#21 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave] by erickpl Sep 23, 2009 (8:37 am)
Replying to: tired_old_dave (Sep 22, 2009 5:07 pm) That's exactly my point. I didn't have the money or the knowledge. I used Internet resources to learn, bought a Haynes and factory manual, and figured it out that way. Between the books and asking a LOT of questions, I got the information I needed to fix the issues I have had. The Jeep has literally been my learning and testing ground as I understand workings of the vehicles. I don't have the money to pay dealer prices at all - that's why I turned to the 'net.   I wish Jeep employees drove Wranglers too, but I don't go there much, I don't worry too much about it. There are a LOT of Jeep resources out there to help you keep your Jeep looking and running great as well as resources to help you modify it. Edmunds is a great source, don't get me wrong, but there are sites that are more focused on the modification and DIY mechanic than Edmunds.   -Paul Replies to this message: mac24 (Sep 24, 2009 6:18 am) roadburner (Sep 24, 2009 8:02 am)
#22 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave] by mac24 Sep 24, 2009 (6:05 am)
Replying to: tired_old_dave (Sep 22, 2009 5:07 pm) .......it would have been nice to talk to dealer employees who love the wrangler they drive.   Nice yes, but not really a reasonable expectation, and even if each employee was issued his/her persolal Wrangler it's no guarentee they'd appreciate them like we do.
#23 of 24 Re: Fiat [erickpl] by mac24 Sep 24, 2009 (6:18 am)
Replying to: erickpl (Sep 23, 2009 8:37 am) I didn't have the money or the knowledge. I used Internet resources to learn, bought a Haynes and factory manual, and figured it out that way.   One of my pet peeves is that people will throw hundreds of dollars worth of parts at a problem in the hope that something might stick, rather than purchase the Factory Service Manual (FSM) and a code reader. You can even subscribe to the FSM for around $25 annually here:AllData.   Doesn't mean I'm right though, just my point of view. Replies to this message: roadburner (Sep 24, 2009 8:02 am)
#24 of 24 Re: Fiat [mac24] by roadburner Sep 24, 2009 (8:02 am)
Replying to: mac24 (Sep 24, 2009 6:18 am) Doesn't mean I'm right though, just my point of view.   Nope; you ARE right.

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