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Last post on Sep 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM
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#15 of 24 Re: first wrangler [firstwrangler]
by steve_ HOST
Aug 31, 2009 (10:41 pm)
Edmunds has invoice prices under the New Cars tab. Our numbers should correspond with Kelley and MSN and the rest.
What the dealer actually pays for a car is another story. No one really knows, and the owner of the dealership may not even know until the accountants balances the books.
Dealers get kickbacks, spiffs, hood money, bonuses, trips and cruises, free training, financing credits, and who knows what else.
Check out Jeep Wrangler Prices Paid and Buying Experience.
Sep 20, 2009 (10:53 am)
To the owners of the Jeep brand whoever you are. Have a warranty, have a lifetime extended warranty. You took away my dealership. Three local dealerships, not one service writer or service person drives a wrangler. At the time of our purchase, our saleslady and the sales manager drove wranglers. Do you intend to turn jeeps into patiots and compasses. I know real men don't let anybody, unless they trust them, touch their machines but...
Sep 22, 2009 (10:17 am)
I purchased a 2007 in September of 2006. It was one of the first on the road in my area. Two weeks later my wife and I drove to North Carolina (over a 9 hour drive) . Even with a back problem I was able to get out and walk unhindered by cramps. These are great seats. Mileage is now at 50k and MPG is between 16 and 18 on average. Highway is always above 20.
#18 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave]
by erickpl
Sep 22, 2009 (11:41 am)
I have a 97. No warranty and it hasn't seen a dealer since I had it inspected prior to purchase back in 03.
Your point?
As long as there is a good demand for Wranglers, I don't see Jeep killing off the golden calf...
-Paul
Sep 22, 2009 (6:07 pm)
"Your Point"
Glad you had the knowledge, money, and a good '97 to never need to see the dealer. So far just the alignment, but it would have been nice to talk to dealer employees who love the wrangler they drive.
Sep 22, 2009 (6:12 pm)
Ditto on the seating
Although not nine hour, our little trips so far don't kill us or my bad back. I think some of it is the suspension/tires and the height of the seat from the floor pan. The seats don't seem to be extraordinary.
#21 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave]
by erickpl
Sep 23, 2009 (9:37 am)
That's exactly my point. I didn't have the money or the knowledge. I used Internet resources to learn, bought a Haynes and factory manual, and figured it out that way. Between the books and asking a LOT of questions, I got the information I needed to fix the issues I have had. The Jeep has literally been my learning and testing ground as I understand workings of the vehicles. I don't have the money to pay dealer prices at all - that's why I turned to the 'net.
I wish Jeep employees drove Wranglers too, but I don't go there much, I don't worry too much about it. There are a LOT of Jeep resources out there to help you keep your Jeep looking and running great as well as resources to help you modify it. Edmunds is a great source, don't get me wrong, but there are sites that are more focused on the modification and DIY mechanic than Edmunds.
-Paul
#22 of 24 Re: Fiat [tired_old_dave]
by mac24
Sep 24, 2009 (7:05 am)
.......it would have been nice to talk to dealer employees who love the wrangler they drive.
Nice yes, but not really a reasonable expectation, and even if each employee was issued his/her persolal Wrangler it's no guarentee they'd appreciate them like we do.
#23 of 24 Re: Fiat [erickpl]
by mac24
Sep 24, 2009 (7:18 am)
I didn't have the money or the knowledge. I used Internet resources to learn, bought a Haynes and factory manual, and figured it out that way.
One of my pet peeves is that people will throw hundreds of dollars worth of parts at a problem in the hope that something might stick, rather than purchase the Factory Service Manual (FSM) and a code reader. You can even subscribe to the FSM for around $25 annually here:AllData.
Doesn't mean I'm right though, just my point of view.
#24 of 24 Re: Fiat [mac24]
by roadburner
Sep 24, 2009 (9:02 am)
Doesn't mean I'm right though, just my point of view.
Nope; you ARE right.