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31 messages, Last post on Jun 11, 2008 at 4:48 PM
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Here are the two links to Euro NCAP tests. Keep in mind that the test differs from the US test, just as the driving conditions vary. I wish I found this before I bought my Mazda 5 since I would have never bought it. 3 star rating for my daughter on the back is not acceptable to me. Mazda 5 Safety ratings: The AA: http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/ncap/ncap_car_results.jsp?make=Mazda&model=Maz- - da5&year=2005&publicationDate=2005-09-01 NCAP: http://www.euroncap.com/tests/mazda_5_2005/241.aspx Keep in mind that the European version of the car is slightly different (7 seats instead of 6) and that in the UK they have the steering wheel on the other side.
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I bet this will scare you further. This car is the highest in the category for indoor car toxicity. In my mind that's worse then 3 star rating. Accidents might or might not happen, but cancer will get you ever time. See this: http://www.healthycar.org/vehicle.details.php?getrecno=116
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No wonder we have so many autistic kids and learning disabilities. We spend a lot of time surrounded by polution! Bromine Bromine is likely associated with the use of brominated flame retardants (BFRs). BFRs are added to plastics, fabrics and foams in order to impart fire resistance, but they are released from these materials into the environmental over the life of the vehicle or child car seat. Heat and UV-ray exposure in cars can accelerate the breakdown of these chemicals and possibly increase their toxicity. Some BFRs have been associated with thyroid problems, learning and memory impairment, decreased fertility, behavioral changes, and other health problems. Chlorine Chlorine is likely associated with polyvinyl chloride (PVC), a widely used type of plastic that is of concern to the environment and public health during all phases of its life cycle. Flexible PVC contains chemicals called phthalates, some of which have been associated with decreased fertility, pre-term deliveries, and damage to the liver, testes, thyroid, ovaries, kidneys, and blood. There is also evidence that phthalates can pass from mothers to babies through the placenta and through breast milk. Lead Lead is sometimes used as an additive in plastics. Exposure to it can lead to a number of health effects depending on the exposure level. It can cause brain damage as well as problems with the kidneys, blood, nerves, and the reproductive system. It can also cause learning and behavioral problems. |
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Replying to: west_exchange (May 14, 2008 6:01 am) Yes, there is a little bit of "bad things" everywhere, but then you may find out that some ethnicities are more prone to cancer than others, or there are some hereditary conditions that make your kids more prone to certain illnesses...or maybe kids go to school and are exposed to tuberculosis by a fellow student, or even they break a bone when playing in the swing, who knows... I love my family and I care, but live a little, we cannot keep the kids in a magic world bubble 
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..however would you willingly expose your child to chemicals that "might" be poisonous? If you had a choice. Even if there is a little risk, I'd still try to avoid it if I knew about it ahead of time. Let's say you're debating between two cars and one is low toxic and the other one is high toxic. Which one do you chose all else being equal? Sadly for me my first two choices of Subaru Forester and Mazda 5 were all very toxic. It's too late, I already bought Mazda 5, but if I can help someone else get this information I'll be at peace. I know that people just DON'T WANT TO HEAR the bad news about their beloved car. I am the same way. But I wish someone told me that before I bought it. It would have swayed my decision to another automaker (Honda for example). |
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Replying to: west_exchange (May 14, 2008 11:54 am) Oh, and we can't just "stay in our house," just learned we have RADON. Eeek! |
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Replying to: west_exchange (May 14, 2008 11:54 am) However, salt can be toxic. Water can be toxic if you drink too much of it. It is all about the dose. I don't spend 8 hours a day or even 1 hour a day in my car, although i understand that some people do spend lots of time in their car. It's not as great a concern for me. On balance, i think there are many other harmful things in our environment that we are exposing ourselves to without knowing it. Maybe if we spend less time thinking about what our cars are made of and instead concentrate on how we can spend less time in cars, we would be better off in many ways. But i am all for reducing the amount of these unnecessary chemicals in our cars. I some manufacturers can do it (i notice Nissan has a pretty good track record), all of them can. This is all only my humble opinion and I will shut up now.
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Replying to: riproy (May 15, 2008 9:04 am) My family and I don't spend large amount of time in the car, plus the cars are either on shade or garage most of the time. In addition, hot weather in this area is not as bad as i.e. Texas or Georgia Also, I do this for my little one: - Limit their TV watching to 15-30 minutes a week. Enjoy outdoors whenever possible so they sweat their hyperactivity (at least 1hr a day) - Boost their creativity by playing with Legos, read them books and play nice music instead of watching Baby Einstein videos and Dora the explorer - Feed them healthy, organic foods. Avoid McDonalds, Burger King and pizza from Chucky Cheese - Get the best seats or boosters regardless of price. As an example Britax offers 5 point harness for weights that nobody else offers. If you have checked all of the above, then worrying about car chemicals might not be as critical as you think. My 2 cents 
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Replying to: west_exchange (May 14, 2008 5:44 am)  Just drive safely, stay at 55 mph in the right lane on the highway, and enjoy your new car. There's plenty of real important stuff to worry about rather then what might happen. Enjoy and have a good day!
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It is true that good food, exercise and limited time watching TV help raise healthy, happy, well adjusted kids. But what does that have to do with chosing the BEST car for your family? I think you guys on this board refuse to hear any criticism of Mazda 5 and will justify and defend the manufacturer and car at all costs. I don't understand that at all. I know that different people have different needs and priorities - that's normal! I always wondered who buys those Mercuries or Oldmobiles etc. But every good has it's customer. It's important not to lose track of the topic at point, which is safety. Yes, driving carefully and cautiously is of the most importance. But when you are making a 20k investment in the car YOU HAVE TO BASE YOUR DECISION on some fact, right? For some of you that fact was sliding door, for some it was 5 seats, for some it was the look of the car. I'm sure equal number of people were disuaded from purchasing this car based on those same exact criteria which they found unappealing or undesirable. I was just trying to give information to the ones that might want it or need it to make their decision. Face it: crash test ratings and overall healthy atmosphere influences any informed buyer. Buying a car is a give and take - you like something, you dislike something else and at the end you reach some sort of equilibrium that you can live with. I refuse to be silenced and put down for my concerns about the car. I don't appreciate put downs and patronizing. This forum helped me a lot when I was looking at different cars. It presented a lot of positive opinions and pointed out shortcomings. I'm just doing my duty pointing out things I wish were pointed out to me. You can call me paranoid freak in effort to make yourselves feel good about your purchasing decision. That's ok, I understand. I just spent a lot of money too and want to believe that it was the best decision I could have made . Thanks.
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