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31 messages, Last post on Jun 11, 2008 at 4:48 PM
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Replying to: riproy (May 15, 2008 9:04 am) I just think that unfortunately companies are in it for the profit and it not until there is a big to do about it all they will not change and do not expect the government to make them as they just want them to keep the economy going. safety does not pay them or the companies anything. they can produce as many 'studies' as are required to defend what they do. We just have to be responsible for ourselves. Personally find that we as a society need to get our priorities correct. If you feel that the toxic chemicals are something that would prevent you from buying the car then do not. If the lack of ESC restricts you then don't get the car. It is only a car unfortunately we tend to treat it as an entertainment and mini house with the number of hour we spend in them. is this a good thing you decide. |
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Replying to: riproy (May 15, 2008 9:04 am) |
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Last week, I drove my M5 and stop at the inter-section to wait traffic light. In that momentum, there was a guy knocked my window to tell me my car rear door was opened. It is surprising me, there is No any warning shown on my dashboard. As we knew, any door ajar will cause the Red Light warning on the dashboard. I called the car dealer who told me that is "normal" because the batch M5 which I bought didn't have such feature( rear door ajar warning function). But later batch M5 equipped such function. What I am thinking, if my children sit in the rear part of this car. Sometimes, we will put the seat to flat and allow children play there. or put luggage at rear of the car. In case of the rear door doesn't closed well and driver do not know it. It is very possible to cause serious accidents. Have any one can have the same issues ? or The car dealer is right ? Please share with me your guys thought and experiences, appreciate.
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Replying to: aliou (May 20, 2008 12:05 pm)
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Replying to: maltb (May 20, 2008 12:41 pm) I just want to know from you who own Mazda 5 car. Does your dashboard warning LED show door opened while the rear door didn't close well( ajar) ?? I am worry about just mine Mazda 5 has this problem only.
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Replying to: aliou (May 21, 2008 8:48 am)  . Possibly I have owned several old cars as a student and that has made me paranoid to always to double check when shutting the doors, lift-gate, etc. That goes along with checking all levels when there is a relatively long trip. And, by the way, It is really visible when the lift-gate is not fully closed.
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 22, 2008 4:29 pm) 
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I have an extensive background in industrial safety, with a focus on chemical safety. Here are some points to ponder - 1. Mazda 5 is a very safe car on crash tests for adults: NHTSA has a matrix for testing car safety that looks at a variety of factors. One of the most significant factors that may cause a vehicle NOT to be tested is that it has recently rec'd high scores on the Euro and Japanese tests (and the vehicle is structurally the same model). Doesn't mean it won't ever be tested, but it drops way down the waiting list. I think this is good gov't policy, and puts untested cars through the system sooner than might otherwise be the case. 2. Mazda 5 is very safe for children in appropriate restraints: I agree that the lower child rating on the Euro test is procedural NOT the result of inadequate protection. The Euro test automatically deducts safety points for lack of clear labels, poorly marked electrical connections, etc. The wisdom seems clear - if things are poorly marked, then parents could incorrectly install safety seats, and technicians could inadvertently disconnect air bag sensors. 3. Toxicity issues are suspect: I've gone to the Healthycar.org link. Although the idea is great, the described testing methods are inadequate. There are two important factors regarding elemental chemical safety: PRESENCE, and AVAILABILITY. Most elements in our environment are present, but unavailable. Table salt, for instance is one of the most commonly used food additives. It's 50% chlorine! The chlorine is present, but it's unavailable. As long as it's bound to the sodium, it's a safe compound. Various processes could return it to elemental chlorine, which in some forms can be a harmful irritant - even causing serious injury or death. Bromine is actually quite common in foods and medicines. It's one of the key components of chocolate. Arsenic, antimony, and lead can be harmful when not bound in stable compounds. Since the healthycar results do not test which compounds contain these items, we cannot gain any indication of toxicity. Just bad data being used to generate bad conclusions. Now, do I think that my new car is NOT toxic? I use my nose. If I can smell something that is not a known safe compound, then I assume it's not safe. I air it out. Just seems prudent to me. Same thing with crash safety - too many factors in a crash. Try like heck to stay away from circumstances that would result in a crash, buckle up, and buy the best child seats money can buy - AND BE SURE TO LOOK AT SEAT CRASH DATA!
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Replying to: mfuchs2004 (May 23, 2008 9:14 am) With regards to toxicity, I won't open a can of worms, but if it was really a BIG issue I think there would be more noise everywhere (TV, Internet, etc.) I'll keep mum now... |
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 23, 2008 7:09 am) Because as I know all of the cars with liftgate/rear hatch without such problem.
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