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#12 of 31 Re: that's true you can't keep them in the bubble.. [west_exchange]
May 15, 2008 (9:04 am)
I hear what you are saying, and i wouldn't want to willingly expose anyone to harmful chemicals.
However, salt can be toxic. Water can be toxic if you drink too much of it. It is all about the dose. I don't spend 8 hours a day or even 1 hour a day in my car, although i understand that some people do spend lots of time in their car. It's not as great a concern for me.
On balance, i think there are many other harmful things in our environment that we are exposing ourselves to without knowing it.
Maybe if we spend less time thinking about what our cars are made of and instead concentrate on how we can spend less time in cars, we would be better off in many ways.
But i am all for reducing the amount of these unnecessary chemicals in our cars. I some manufacturers can do it (i notice Nissan has a pretty good track record), all of them can.
This is all only my humble opinion and I will shut up now.
#13 of 31 Re: that's true you can't keep them in the bubble.. [riproy]
May 16, 2008 (6:21 am)
I agree with riproy. I don't wanna tell you the car chemicals you were exposed when you were a kid, problem is, nobody really started making serious analysis until recently.
My family and I don't spend large amount of time in the car, plus the cars are either on shade or garage most of the time. In addition, hot weather in this area is not as bad as i.e. Texas or Georgia
Also, I do this for my little one:
- Limit their TV watching to 15-30 minutes a week. Enjoy outdoors whenever possible so they sweat their hyperactivity (at least 1hr a day)
- Boost their creativity by playing with Legos, read them books and play nice music instead of watching Baby Einstein videos and Dora the explorer
- Feed them healthy, organic foods. Avoid McDonalds, Burger King and pizza from Chucky Cheese
- Get the best seats or boosters regardless of price. As an example Britax offers 5 point harness for weights that nobody else offers.
If you have checked all of the above, then worrying about car chemicals might not be as critical as you think.
My 2 cents
#14 of 31 Re: Depends who you want to protect [west_exchange]
May 16, 2008 (9:38 am)
Hi - I think you're worrying unnecessarily about the crash tests. No matter what you drive, if you get hit hard enough, no car will help you. Sounds like you don't want a Mazda, you want an armored personnel carrier! Just drive safely, stay at 55 mph in the right lane on the highway, and enjoy your new car. There's plenty of real important stuff to worry about rather then what might happen. Enjoy and have a good day!
May 16, 2008 (12:09 pm)
It is true that good food, exercise and limited time watching TV help raise healthy, happy, well adjusted kids. But what does that have to do with chosing the BEST car for your family?
I think you guys on this board refuse to hear any criticism of Mazda 5 and will justify and defend the manufacturer and car at all costs. I don't understand that at all. I know that different people have different needs and priorities - that's normal! I always wondered who buys those Mercuries or Oldmobiles etc. But every good has it's customer.
It's important not to lose track of the topic at point, which is safety. Yes, driving carefully and cautiously is of the most importance. But when you are making a 20k investment in the car YOU HAVE TO BASE YOUR DECISION on some fact, right? For some of you that fact was sliding door, for some it was 5 seats, for some it was the look of the car. I'm sure equal number of people were disuaded from purchasing this car based on those same exact criteria which they found unappealing or undesirable.
I was just trying to give information to the ones that might want it or need it to make their decision. Face it: crash test ratings and overall healthy atmosphere influences any informed buyer. Buying a car is a give and take - you like something, you dislike something else and at the end you reach some sort of equilibrium that you can live with.
I refuse to be silenced and put down for my concerns about the car. I don't appreciate put downs and patronizing. This forum helped me a lot when I was looking at different cars. It presented a lot of positive opinions and pointed out shortcomings. I'm just doing my duty pointing out things I wish were pointed out to me.
You can call me paranoid freak in effort to make yourselves feel good about your purchasing decision. That's ok, I understand. I just spent a lot of money too and want to believe that it was the best decision I could have made .
#16 of 31 Re: well... [west_exchange]
May 16, 2008 (1:19 pm)
I think you have said it all:
It costed you 20K, that is not exactly a Rolls-Royce quality car price. I love my car but I know is not the top of the crop.
You are not being silenced nor patronized. Don't forget that this is a forum, so people express their opinion in their replies, you either take them or leave them, don't expect all the forum members to agree with you. As per being silenced, I think you just did the opposite, or did somebody ban you from typing your last reply?
Yes, I feel good about my purchases (I own not one, but two Mazda5s) and I have explained why in the forum. You either take or leave the advice. I won't call you a paranoid freak as I think you also have explained your reasons on your own right, and that is valid to me (although not critical for my purchases, period)
#17 of 31 Re: Depends who you want to protect [west_exchange]
May 16, 2008 (2:08 pm)
I just need to comment regarding the 3 star rating for children. it is NOT because the child would get hurt it is because the ISOFIX connectors are not labelled and on the model tested did not have deactivation switch in the front passenger seat for the airbag. If there had been any contact at all with the child it would have said. I just wanted to make this clear.
#18 of 31 Re: that's true you can't keep them in the bubble.. [riproy]
May 16, 2008 (2:20 pm)
Just an fyi most of the chemicals that are in the car are the fire retardants that government forces the car manufacturers to put on the seats and stuff. The same ones that are on all of the furniture we buy. I personally bought my car in the summer so that I could have the windows open 99% of the time and yes I also left them open in the garage for months and month.
I just think that unfortunately companies are in it for the profit and it not until there is a big to do about it all they will not change and do not expect the government to make them as they just want them to keep the economy going. safety does not pay them or the companies anything. they can produce as many 'studies' as are required to defend what they do. We just have to be responsible for ourselves.
Personally find that we as a society need to get our priorities correct. If you feel that the toxic chemicals are something that would prevent you from buying the car then do not. If the lack of ESC restricts you then don't get the car. It is only a car unfortunately we tend to treat it as an entertainment and mini house with the number of hour we spend in them. is this a good thing you decide.
#19 of 31 Re: that's true you can't keep them in the bubble.. [riproy]
May 16, 2008 (2:22 pm)
re nissan have you looked at the numbers for one of the new cars say the versa it got a toxic rating of 5 which is the max for the test.
#20 of 31 Are there any one have the same problems as mine Mazda 5 rear door warning
May 20, 2008 (12:05 pm)
Last week, I drove my M5 and stop at the inter-section to wait traffic light. In that momentum, there was a guy knocked my window to tell me my car rear door was opened.
It is surprising me, there is No any warning shown on my dashboard. As we knew, any door ajar will cause the Red Light warning on the dashboard. I called the car dealer who told me that is "normal" because the batch M5 which I bought didn't have such feature( rear door ajar warning function). But later batch M5 equipped such function.
What I am thinking, if my children sit in the rear part of this car. Sometimes, we will put the seat to flat and allow children play there. or put luggage at rear of the car. In case of the rear door doesn't closed well and driver do not know it. It is very possible to cause serious accidents.
Have any one can have the same issues ? or The car dealer is right ?
Please share with me your guys thought and experiences, appreciate.
#21 of 31 Re: Are there any one have the same problems as mine Mazda 5 rear door warning [aliou]
May 20, 2008 (12:41 pm)
What the dealer is saying does not sound correct. However, I would hope that any passenger in your car are properly restrained.