Article Comments - 2008 Dodge Charger R/T vs. 2008 Pontiac G8 GT

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Comparison Test: 2008 Dodge Charger R/T vs. 2008 Pontiac G8 GT - You know, big, fast American cars. They're not hybrids, they don't run on biodiesel and they rumble and roar through dual exhausts. And they do the sort of epic burnouts that inspire Bruce Springsteen songs. (more)

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#8 of 48 sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! by elias Mar 02, 2008 (7:24 am)
what's the sales # per year under which the SRT8 or challenger or charger-RT would be considered a failure like you consider GTO, xtec & budo ? how is SRT8 doing for sales/inventory so far - maybe that will somewhat indicate how well challenger & charger-RT will do sales-wise? aren't G8 sales capped by the slow-boats from down under? in a sales-comparo, would we pick the same # for G8 & charger-RT as being an indication of sales success/failure? Replies to this message: xtec (Mar 02, 2008 10:02 am) holdenguy (Mar 03, 2008 5:58 am) xtec (Mar 03, 2008 9:52 am) and 16 more...
#9 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [elias] by xtec Mar 02, 2008 (10:02 am)
Replying to: elias (Mar 02, 2008 7:24 am) Put it this way The Charger is still around and the GTO is gone.Why because they couldn't sell the GTO. Replies to this message: holdenguy (Mar 03, 2008 5:58 am) xtec (Mar 03, 2008 9:52 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 03, 2008 4:00 pm) and 10 more... wideglide (Jun 04, 2008 2:55 pm) and 4 more...
#10 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [xtec] by holdenguy Mar 03, 2008 (5:58 am)
Replying to: xtec (Mar 02, 2008 10:02 am) I was sitting out front of work the other day having a break. There was this car parked out front, fugliest looking thing I have ever seen. Didn't know what it was until I saw that video of the Dud Chunder vs G8. Looks like one person designed the front and another did the back. They didn't quite meet up in the middle. Was it designed in India? Replies to this message: xtec (Mar 03, 2008 9:52 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 03, 2008 4:00 pm) xtec (Mar 03, 2008 5:56 pm) and 9 more... wideglide (Jun 04, 2008 2:55 pm) xtec (Jun 04, 2008 8:51 pm) and 3 more...
#11 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [holdenguy] by xtec Mar 03, 2008 (9:52 am)
Replying to: holdenguy (Mar 03, 2008 5:58 am) THe G8 is boring looking just like the GTO.It has no performance looks to it.The roof line is typical family sedan.The back is plain jane looking.To me The front of the G8 and the rear should be on differant cars.At least the Charger looks like a muscle car.Once again Pontiac failed to have a car that looks like a performance car.Thats what killed the GTO. Replies to this message: cap232pilot1 (Mar 03, 2008 4:00 pm) xtec (Mar 03, 2008 5:56 pm) holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am) and 8 more... wideglide (Jun 04, 2008 2:55 pm) xtec (Jun 04, 2008 8:51 pm) tayl0rd (Jun 04, 2008 10:26 pm) paisan (Jun 05, 2008 3:38 am) and 1 more...
#12 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [xtec] by cap232pilot1 Mar 03, 2008 (4:00 pm)
Replying to: xtec (Mar 03, 2008 9:52 am) There are multiple reasons why the Goat died: 1) The reason we all know : Unappealing styling 2) The reason most of us know : The platform was due to be phased ,out irregardless of how many they sold. Remember , the 1994-96 Impala SS was a roaring success , but the General killed it because they made a poor decision to drop the rear -wheel drive architecture. 3) The reason few of us know : The UAW was annoyed with Bob Lutz for bringing a Holden product state side. In an effort to appease the union, a cap of 18,000 units was agreed upon for 2004-06. The only reason GM improved the car (appearance and performance ) in 2005 was because : a) Buyer backlash b) dealer's p.o. ed because Goats sat and nearly rusted away on their lots c)Lutz had egg on his face and his ego wouldn't allow him to admit that he underestimated American resolve to have a design worthy of the name, even though it performed quite well. Apparently , the UAW has made concessions because we all know that the G8 platform is here along with the soon to arrive Camaro derivative .And , the Opels are already here from Europe in Saturn ad Malibu trims. Replies to this message: xtec (Mar 03, 2008 5:56 pm) holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am) xtec (Mar 04, 2008 10:40 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 04, 2008 5:05 pm) and 6 more...
#13 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [cap232pilot1] by xtec Mar 03, 2008 (5:56 pm)
Replying to: cap232pilot1 (Mar 03, 2008 4:00 pm) Here is another Question I have,why can't GM build the car here?I think there is enough outsourceing.Plus its a slap in the face for the union worker. Replies to this message: holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am) xtec (Mar 04, 2008 10:40 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 04, 2008 5:05 pm) holdenguy (Mar 07, 2008 5:27 am) and 5 more...
#14 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [xtec] by holdenguy Mar 04, 2008 (6:07 am)
Replying to: xtec (Mar 03, 2008 5:56 pm) The GTO didn't die, the platform it was on finished,VZ Commodore was at its end. You guys still have Unions? We are phaseing them out here. Obviously your Unions make it too expensive to build the car there. As for the GTO looking bland, sorry that it didn't have lumps and bumps and sharp un-aerodynamic edges that you are so familier with. ROFL! Replies to this message: xtec (Mar 04, 2008 10:40 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 04, 2008 5:05 pm) holdenguy (Mar 07, 2008 5:27 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 08, 2008 1:44 pm) and 4 more...
#15 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [holdenguy] by xtec Mar 04, 2008 (10:40 am)
Replying to: holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am) If you ever saw the original GTO,you would know that it also had lumps and bumps and sharp unaerodynamics edges,as well as the Chevelle,Fairlane,Chargers and Road Runner which I was a proud owner of,which beat the GTOs.Thats is what ruined the new GTO,it wasn't retro lookimg,A G6 looks almost the same,and I don't call that a performance car.
#16 of 48 Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [holdenguy] by cap232pilot1 Mar 04, 2008 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am) We have all , at one time or another , loved a car despite how the majority felt about it or how the automotive press treated it. That's good and ok because we're all car guys and wouldn't waste are time on forums such as this if we weren't. However, one shouldn't be affronted by what is fact when it comes to the design of the 2004-06 GTO. I suspect that many of us posting here grew up in the Muscle car age of the mid - sixties and early seventies - I did .We remember a different GTO which evoked a special feeling... something the 2004-06 car never was able to do at any level. The Goat from 1964 to 1972 just clicked with America's youth. The 1973 and 74 versions were not embraced even though they were assembled in America, so it's not just a thing against Aussie designs. And the oil embargo of 1973/74 didn't do as much to kill off the muscle car craze as some would have us think.You had to live in the USA in the sixties and early seventies and to understand. It ( the GTO) was an all encompassing thing -heck , even a part of our music and culture ! BTW , I didn't own one then - I was into SS Chevys and Vettes , but admired and respected those vehicles. Good Luck with yours . Replies to this message: holdenguy (Mar 07, 2008 5:27 am) cap232pilot1 (Mar 08, 2008 1:44 pm) holdenguy (Apr 11, 2008 6:25 am) and 3 more...