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Article Comments - 2008 Dodge Charger R/T vs. 2008 Pontiac G8 GT

48 messages,  Last post on Sep 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM

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What is this discussion about? Dodge Charger, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan

Comparison Test: 2008 Dodge Charger R/T vs. 2008 Pontiac G8 GT - You know, big, fast American cars. They're not hybrids, they don't run on biodiesel and they rumble and roar through dual exhausts. And they do the sort of epic burnouts that inspire Bruce Springsteen songs. (more)


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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [holdenguy] by xtec
Mar 03, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Mar 03, 2008 5:58 am)

THe G8 is boring looking just like the GTO.It has no performance looks to it.The roof line is typical family sedan.The back is plain jane looking.To me The front of the G8 and the rear should be on differant cars.At least the Charger looks like a muscle car.Once again Pontiac failed to have a car that looks like a performance car.Thats what killed the GTO.
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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [xtec] by cap232pilot1
Mar 03, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: xtec (Mar 03, 2008 9:52 am)

There are multiple reasons why the Goat died:
1) The reason we all know : Unappealing styling
2) The reason most of us know : The platform was due to be phased ,out irregardless of how many they sold. Remember , the 1994-96 Impala SS was a roaring success , but the General killed it because they made a poor decision to drop the rear -wheel drive architecture.
3) The reason few of us know : The UAW was annoyed with Bob Lutz for bringing a Holden product state side. In an effort to appease the union, a cap of 18,000 units was agreed upon for 2004-06. The only reason GM improved the car (appearance and performance ) in 2005 was because : a) Buyer backlash b) dealer's p.o. ed because Goats sat and nearly rusted away on their lots c)Lutz had egg on his face and his ego wouldn't allow him to admit that he underestimated American resolve to have a design worthy of the name, even though it performed quite well.
 
Apparently , the UAW has made concessions because we all know that the G8 platform is here along with the soon to arrive Camaro derivative .And , the Opels are already here from Europe in Saturn ad Malibu trims.
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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [cap232pilot1] by xtec
Mar 03, 2008 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: cap232pilot1 (Mar 03, 2008 4:00 pm)

Here is another Question I have,why can't GM build the car here?I think there is enough outsourceing.Plus its a slap in the face for the union worker.
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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [xtec] by holdenguy
Mar 04, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: xtec (Mar 03, 2008 5:56 pm)

The GTO didn't die, the platform it was on finished,VZ Commodore was at its end.
You guys still have Unions? We are phaseing them out here.
Obviously your Unions make it too expensive to build the car there.
As for the GTO looking bland, sorry that it didn't have lumps and bumps and sharp un-aerodynamic edges that you are so familier with. ROFL!
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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [holdenguy] by xtec
Mar 04, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am)

If you ever saw the original GTO,you would know that it also had lumps and bumps and sharp unaerodynamics edges,as well as the Chevelle,Fairlane,Chargers and Road Runner which I was a proud owner of,which beat the GTOs.Thats is what ruined the new GTO,it wasn't retro lookimg,A G6 looks almost the same,and I don't call that a performance car.
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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [holdenguy] by cap232pilot1
Mar 04, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Mar 04, 2008 6:07 am)

We have all , at one time or another , loved a car despite how the majority felt about it or how the automotive press treated it. That's good and ok because we're all car guys and wouldn't waste are time on forums such as this if we weren't. However, one shouldn't be affronted by what is fact when it comes to the design of the 2004-06 GTO. I suspect that many of us posting here grew up in the Muscle car age of the mid - sixties and early seventies - I did .We remember a different GTO which evoked a special feeling... something the 2004-06 car never was able to do at any level. The Goat from 1964 to 1972 just clicked with America's youth. The 1973 and 74 versions were not embraced even though they were assembled in America, so it's not just a thing against Aussie designs. And the oil embargo of 1973/74 didn't do as much to kill off the muscle car craze as some would have us think.You had to live in the USA in the sixties and early seventies and to understand. It ( the GTO) was an all encompassing thing -heck , even a part of our music and culture ! BTW , I didn't own one then - I was into SS Chevys and Vettes , but admired and respected those vehicles. Good Luck with yours .
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Re: More information on the Dodge Charger and Pontiac G8 [mary_b_04] by jpstax1
Mar 06, 2008 (9:18 am)
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I watched the YouTube video of the G8. What the hell was that whirring/chattering noise all about? It sounded like the engine was knocking badly. Maybe the gas octane was too low.
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Re: More information on the Dodge Charger and Pontiac G8 [jpstax1] by holdenguy
Mar 07, 2008 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 06, 2008 9:18 am)

ipstax1,
Link please mate?
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Re: sales # under which RT or SRT8/challenger would be a failure?! [cap232pilot1] by holdenguy
Mar 07, 2008 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: cap232pilot1 (Mar 04, 2008 5:05 pm)

Yes cap,
             Was well and truly alive in the 70's.
Hell, we had the fastest production 4 door car in the world built here.
Unfortunatly it was a Ford, the Falcon GTHO phase III.
A perfect original version of this car sold for about $700k last year.
As for GM, we had the original Monaro, then V8 Toranas.
Toranas were awesome, light weight, only 1 tonne, and you could easily fit a 350 small block in them.
 
http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/column/sedans8_ford.html Falcon
 
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0407htp_thunder_from_down_under_fe- ature/photo_03.html Monaro
 
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0407htp_thunder_from_down_under_fe- ature/photo_12.html Torana

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