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#956 of 1000 Grinding/Rattling sound on cold starts
by j06
Jul 25, 2012 (12:05 pm)
for my 2009 corolla
21K miles
For the past few weeks on cold starts. I turn the ignition and as soon as the motor kicks in, there is this loud grinding/rattling sound for about one or two seconds. It only seems to do it when the motor has been off for at least a couple of hours. The sound went away for few days.. then it came back.. The degree of noise depends on the length of time it has been off (i.e. it is usually longest and loudest in the morning, shortest when you start up again after few hours).
I found below TSB.
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Did any one of this forum experienced this problem ?. How long it took to fix ?
#957 of 1000 Toyota Corrola 2009 A/C not cooling
by mike7945
Jul 26, 2012 (3:29 pm)
Purchased my 2009 Corolla XLE with a Five year warranty from Toyota (warranty should be good until April 2014) My air-conditioning was working perfectly for the first three years and recently during June only works intermittently (inability to produce cold air) it blows but not as good as before.
Called Toyota and I was advised it would cost $280.00 to service. Booked it in for the service then Toyota asked if I was sure I wanted to have the a/c repaired as they could not find anything wrong with it. Well I agreed to see how it goes and try it out for a few days. The problem continued and I booked the my car in again for the a/c repair and oil change.
Received a call from Toyota again that there is nothing wrong with my a/c and I was only billed for new oil change .
The same problem continues… took my carback to Toyota the cold air works but agree it’s fine in the early morning when it’s not hot and you don’t need much air. But if my car stands in the sun all day and you get into at 4:pm in the hot summer afternoon the a/c just cannot cool my car anymore like it used to. So drove the 25 miles home with nonfunctioning A/C direct to Toyota they took my car to the back and again called me to the back and they somehow managed to get it to blow cold again better than what it was but not really like when I had my car for the first three years (only 21000 miles driven.)
They asked me if my car had been in an accident which it has not. They still insist that they cannot find anything wrong with my cars a/c and if I continue to have problems I must bring my car back to them. I feel that I’m am going insane with dealing with Toyota not to mention the time wasted taking it to them for three times already.
Clearly there is a problem with the thermostat and Toyota keep on doing the sidestep in committing to do any repairs. I used to be a proud and satisfied Toyota customer but not anymore.
How do I get a car with a/c that works ? trade it in and buy a new car ?
This situation is so ridiculous !! so much for Toyota’s five year warranty that I paid an additional $2,000 .00 for
Anyone with a similar problem ?
#958 of 1000 Re: Toyota Corrola 2009 A/C not cooling [mike7945]
by terceltom
Jul 26, 2012 (3:47 pm)
Let me start by stating the price you paid for the 5 year warranty ($2000.00) sounds outrages. But anyway, I also have a 2009 XLE I bought new in 2008. I do notice the A.C. in my 2009 does not cool as good as my 2001 Corolla LE. That being said, the only problem I have experienced with the A.C. in the 2009 is the stinky odor from the evaporator coil. There is a TSB out for the odor which many have experienced. They will replace the evaporator under warranty but it's really a labor intensive job where they have to tear apart the whole dash just to get to the evaporator coil. I chose to just put up with the smell as it's only for the first two minutes when you turn on the A.C. Below is the TSB link for the evaporator
http://www.empirepao.com/tsb/T-SB-0384-09.pdf
#959 of 1000 Re: Toyota Corrola 2009 A/C not cooling [mike7945]
by jpf
Jul 26, 2012 (7:23 pm)
It's time that you part ways with that dealer and find another one. Good luck.
#960 of 1000 2009 Corolla Engine Grinding/rattling
by j06
Aug 02, 2012 (8:35 am)
Yesterday evening I dropped my 09 corolla at 20K miles to the dealership for cold start rattle/grinding noise from top of the engine. I mentioned the TSB on camshaft but the service guy was not interested about the TSB. He asked like you don’t have extended warranty?. I said Toyota should cover this since I am within the power train warranty period. He told if the mechanic starts the car and hear the noise tomorrow. He will look on it. If any thing Toyota covers you don’t have to pay for it. But if they don’t cover and you do not want to be fixed here.. I will be charging you $150 for diagnosis.
Just called today morning.. the mechanic is still looking at the car...
I am thinking like as soon as I get the car back.. I will trade in for a new Camry. I am afraid this one.. also after driving for a while grr.. grr.. grrr noise seems to come from the water pump assembly ..
#961 of 1000 Re: 2009 Corolla Engine Grinding/rattling [j06]
by terceltom
Aug 02, 2012 (10:31 am)
Yea, water pumps are bad on the 2009's - TSB on that too - had mine replaced on my 2009 Corolla under warranty - no questions asked
#962 of 1000 Re: 2009 Corolla Engine Grinding/rattling [terceltom]
by j06
Aug 02, 2012 (10:40 am)
for the water pump did you hear grrr...grrr....grrrr noise with idle ?
How long did your dealer took to diagnose & fix ?
#963 of 1000 Engine Grinding noise
by j06
Aug 27, 2012 (12:01 pm)
My car having engine grinding noise, as soon as the motor kicks in hears a loud grinding/rattling noise. Dealer checked and said they could not duplicate the sound. But I still hear it. Not every start it’s only after sitting for 3 or 4 hours. Some times even after sitting for a while it starts normally. I was searching many forums. Some said its ignition module, some said distributors, some said flying wheel. Toyota has the TSB out for camshaft gear assembly. Did any one experiencing this problem right now?
How do I force the dealer to perform the TSB on my vehicle? No use of calling Toyota..
#964 of 1000 Re: 2009 Corolla Engine Grinding/rattling [j06]
by cschneiderwa
Sep 19, 2012 (7:27 pm)
It's probably your alternator. I'm a mechanic and my girlfriend drives this car. She has put in four replacement alternators. When her new alternator is going bad, her engine sounds like a diesel truck. This model year toyota, came factory with a bad part. Only certain vin numbers are incorporated. Toyota released a technical service bulletin (T-SB-0004-11, date of issue January 5 2011) that under warranty, covers cars under 3 years or 36,000 miles. "Some 2009-2010 model year Corolla vehicles may exhibit a condition where the charging system light is "ON", the alternator is in operative, and/or there is abnormal noise from the engine compartment. This may be cause by the pulley not being seated correctly. The pulley has been updated to correct this condition. Use the following procedure to diagnose and repair the alternator." This is from the online repair manual we use at my shop. Toyota has engineered a new part, however, you can only buy it from Toyota, as they have not released the specs. If you go to an auto parts store to buy a cheaper part, they will sell you an alternator that was to designed to fail. I am speaking from experience.
If you plan to trade your car in, as a mechanic, I would refer you to a Honda dealer or private owner. I always have, and always will own a Honda. Parts are cheap, available and long-lasting. Honda also continue to hold the highest resale value. Something to think about if you don't plan on owning a car forever.
PS-I do NOT work for Honda. This is not a plug.
#965 of 1000 Re: 2009 Corolla Engine Grinding/rattling [cschneiderwa]
by sandman_6472
Sep 20, 2012 (6:22 pm)
'06 Civic LX and still am very happy with the car. Sure there have been some TSB's done and a couple other little problems, but with a 1st year model, one expects certain things will crop up. And not really sure what else I'd buy as a replacement for it? Especially in it's price range. And to be honest, I couldn't justify spending C Class or 3 Series $ on a vehicle no matter how well it drove. As much as I love cars, just couldn't spend that kind of change on a vehicle.
The Sandman