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#467 of 1009 Major problem with 09 Corolla S
Apr 28, 2009 (2:10 pm)
Nobody seems to be talking about this yet. Since it is still early for the 09 Corolla S, I am not surprised. I wanted to start a blog so if anyone else is having similar problems and searched the internet, they would find something. When I had this problem last August and searched the net, I found nothing. I recently met someone who is having similar problems with her 09 Corolla S. So we searched the net again and still found nothing. That was earlier today, April 28, 2009.
I bought my Corolla the first month they came out. That was back in February of 2008. Everything seemed fine until August when I started the engine one day and heard a knocking. I immediately turned off the engine, called Coos Bay Toyota, where I bought the car and they told me not to drive it. They called a tow truck to come get it and bring it to the service station.
By the end of the first day they told me that there was absolutely no oil in the engine. And they were trying to figure out where it went. There was no evidence of an oil leak. The car had only 4004 miles on it. I got a couple different stories about how this happened, so I don't know what to believe. They told me it was a manufacturing defect.
They had my car for over a week, and to replace the entire engine. Luckily it was under warranty!
Here's a list of all the parts they had to replace:
I put question marks by the stuff I'm unsure about.
SHORT BLOCK (CRANK SHAFT, PISTONS ETC...)
OIL PUMP WITH TENSIONER
VIBRATION DAMPER CHAIN
PLATE CHAIN TENSIONER
SLIPPER CHAIN TENSIONER
GASKET CHAIN TENSIONER
CAMSHAFT GEAR ASSEMBLY
CAMSHAFT SUB ASSEMBLY
ENGINE GASKET KIT
VALVE SUB-ASSEMBLY, V ?
SUPER LONG LIFE C ?
REPLACEMENT ELEMENT ?
OIL, MOTOR 5W30 QT
WORLD STANDARD AU ?
#468 of 1009 Re: Major problem with 09 Corolla S [selinandaniel]
Apr 28, 2009 (3:55 pm)
So I guess the moral of this story the rest of us new Corolla owners should keep an eye on the oil dip stick!
#469 of 1009 Re: Major problem with 09 Corolla S [selinandaniel]
Apr 28, 2009 (8:01 pm)
Sounds like you are just unlucky - probably was a manufacturing defect. I haven't read about many complete engine failures on the new Corollas (I think yours is the first I have read). It happens - I've been in manufacturing (not auto) for a long time and problems still occur, no matter how good the quality control. That's what the warranty is for.
I am sure your luck will improve now!
#470 of 1009 Re: Major problem with 09 Corolla S [terceltom]
Apr 28, 2009 (9:11 pm)
Do you know where the oil could have gone if there was no leak. There was also no evidence of it coming out the exhaust pipe.
At first they told my husband that it was the computer telling the car to let oil out the exhaust. And it had to be reprogrammed. But when I got there he said nothing about the computer screw up, and the story changed. Supposedly, the piston rings were misaligned, and that caused the oil to get sucked out through the exhaust. There was absolutely no oil in it at all. What kind of manufacturing defect could cause this and wouldn't I have smelled oil burning or something?
This lady I met today has only 3800 on hers. We checked the oil and sure enough, it was really low. I'm worried that if she just tops it off, it will delay the inevitable, and/or maybe the same thing will happen after the warranty expires.
#471 of 1009 Re: Major problem with 09 Corolla S [selinandaniel]
Apr 29, 2009 (3:46 am)
If there are no leaks, the only place it went was out the exhaust. Bad or misaligned piston rings would be the cause. Why you didn't notice? I don't know, but something (or someone) really made an error assembling the engine at the plant.
The lady you met - she should take the car in to have the ECM reprogrammed. There are early '09s that use oil due to a computer program that is not quite right. A simple connection to the shop's computer to download the revised software will correct the problem. I doubt it is the same issue as yours, because we'd be
hearing about a lot more engine problems than just yours. That's why your dealer's "story changed." They were assuming that it needed the computer reprogramming, because an issue like yours is very rare.
The warranty for this kind of thing is 5 years, 60k miles, so that allows enough time to find these kinds of problems.
I'm certain that you will have better luck with your car in the future.
Apr 30, 2009 (6:27 pm)
I just bought my FIRST Brand new car Tuesday.. that will make it 2 days old for me .. but.. i had a friend ride in the back seat on the driver side and say that the seat moves.. so, the seat lifts up on the edge and is connected on the passenger seat.. it doesnt seem right.. so i'll take it monday to have it looked at but.. i was wondering if anyone elses had this problem or if it really is suppose to do that for no apparent reason. Or maybe Check the Back Seat work day was cancelled?
#473 of 1009 Re: Back Seat [clbrewer06]
Apr 30, 2009 (6:31 pm)
Never heard of one with that issue. Taking it in to be corrected is the thing to do.
#474 of 1009 Re: Back Seat [clbrewer06]
May 01, 2009 (5:21 am)
The rear bottom seat actually connects/disconnects from the chassis in the crease or fold in order for you to remove it. There are two hooks where the seat attaches. Apparently the one hook on the left side seems like it is not fastened. If you don't want to attach it the dealer could do it in five minutes. There are no tools involved.
#475 of 1009 2009 Corolla Starting Issues
Apr 30, 2009 (10:57 am)
I purchased my 2009 Corolla last June and it now has 40k highway miles on it. I was reading previous post regarding starting issues after the car has sat over several days. Last weekend it was raining a lot and the car sat for a day and a half. When I tried to start the car in the morning the engine would turn over, but the engine would not start. After initiating the starter about 6 times, the engine fired up and a white puff of smoke came out of the tailpipe. 4 days later I had the car at the dealer for an oil change and they checked the battery. The battery was low, but not significantly enough to keep the car from starting. I have heard that some Toyota's have problems starting when there is a lot of moisture in the air, such as heavy rainstorms. As one person suggested in this forum, the starting issues of the Corolla are merely an isolated incident, but I have read here and on Toyota Nation this has been a problem for a few people. I did get a second opinion and changed out the battery, but don't believe this was the issue. I'm interested to hear if there are any updates on those that had this problem before.
#476 of 1009 Re: Major problem with 09 Corolla S [selinandaniel]
May 01, 2009 (11:28 am)
Wow....that's a pretty scary story.....I wonder if new Honda Civics have these kinds of problems...I'll review the Civic section and see what people are saying.
Anyway, what struck me as interesting is that the engine made it 4,000 mi. with a severe defect.
Also what 2 people said the computer can tell all the oil to leave thru the exhaust....say what?.....boy, the computer is the boss of this car, forget the driver. I might be over the hill (pushing 60) but in the good old days when oil left it was
1. external leaks
2. worn rings/cracked piston/cracked/worn cyl.
3. valve seals
That's why today's are cars are all about electronics and a much smaller mechanical aspect.
The last time I did an engine overhaul was about 1975 and I don't think I would even attempt it today....I stick to oil changes/wheel/tire/brakes work on my 09 Corolla and don't go near anything controlled by the computer....well, I did install aftermarket wheels and decided to not reinstall the tire pressure sensors (yep, my light stays on.....they'll go back at the first tire replacement). A friend told me to put them in a container pressurized to 30# and put it in the trunk. ...I didn't like that idea. These things are about $94 each(somebody is making big bucks).
I hope we have a couple of Toyota techs. reading our posts since they have the knowledge and skills needed to bring clarity to our discussions....if so thanks.