Article Comments - 2008 Nissan Cube vs. 2008 Scion xB

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#4 of 23 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Nissan Cube vs. 2008 Scion xB [cody20] by thefoth Feb 22, 2008 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: cody20 (Feb 22, 2008 6:41 am) I agree with KarenS 100%, Scion abandoned me when they released the second gen xB. The new car is an insult to the quirkiness of the original. In terms of market segment and sales, I would wager a bet that the average age of owners has climbed dramatically for the xB and demand is down overall compared to the launch of the original xB. To me these small B segment cars are about function, style, and economy. I’m a tuner at heart, I wanted a cheap car that I could change up and really make unique. To date I’ve invested over $20,000 in aftermarket parts for my first gen xB and now as time draws near for me to sell it and start a new project what car has Scion, Toyota or Lexus given me to work with. NOTHING! I’m not starting a family so I don’t need a people mover. I use my car for commuting, going out with friends and road trips. I think with basic tuner improvements to the Cube it would be a real easy choice for me. Since I know there is already a very well developed tuner market in Japan for the car, it would be easy to get a nice set of flush fitment wheels, some aftermarket suspension, etc. I personally wouldn’t mind seeing even a smaller engine, possibly a little turbo diesel or something else that would inspire more tuning for those who want it and more efficiency for those who don’t. Furthermore I think Josh Jacquot is an idiot, though I respect his dissenting opinion, I couldn’t disagree with him more. Market diversity is the key here, not everyone wants to drive a damn Camry or Escalade. Car companies should really stop trying to please everyone with every car and take the risk to build some cars that really only serve a small market segment. Scion did it right when they started, cheap car, really reasonable standard features, and no BS. Where is the Scion of 2004 now? Gone…as is Jim Farley the man with the vision that made what Scion was possible. Hopefully the Nissan Cube or Kia Soul will renew my spirit for B segment in the US market. I wish Toyota would let Scion get back on track with what it should be. Replies to this message: texases (Feb 22, 2008 7:00 pm) nozferat (Feb 26, 2008 12:37 am) anderlan (Jul 05, 2008 6:05 am) alamocity (Aug 22, 2008 5:12 pm)
#5 of 23 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Nissan Cube vs. 2008 Scion xB [thefoth] by texases Feb 22, 2008 (7:00 pm)
Replying to: thefoth (Feb 22, 2008 4:53 pm) I know the xB faithful were greatly disappointed, but the old car was slow, rough riding, and lacking in safety equipment. Not an option for me. I'm on the verge of buying an '08, it fills all my needs while getting adequate mpgs with reasonable freeway ability and safety. Motor Week awarded their car of the year award, they thought so highly of it. I plan on going the TRD route with springs, shocks, struts, rear sway bar, and front strut tower bar, combined with good 16" tires. Should be fun. Replies to this message: nozferat (Feb 26, 2008 12:37 am) anderlan (Jul 05, 2008 6:05 am) alamocity (Aug 22, 2008 5:12 pm)
#6 of 23 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Nissan Cube vs. 2008 Scion xB [texases] by nozferat Feb 26, 2008 (12:37 am)
Replying to: texases (Feb 22, 2008 7:00 pm) The xB DOES NOT GET good fuel economy for the car it is. It was totally unnecessary for Toyota to make it so much larger and put in such a larger, more power engine. This is what is wrong with Americans. You people can't think beyond the length of your own arms. How retarded is it for Toyota to have made the new xB 400lbs heavier than the outgoing one? How freaking stupid.
#7 of 23 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Nissan Cube vs. 2008 Scion xB [KarenS] by firehouse46 Apr 02, 2008 (8:21 pm)
Replying to: KarenS (Feb 21, 2008 10:17 am) 1. Bigger engine needed unless you plan on never taking it on a US highway 2. I hate how the door swings out, that will be tough for city folks to load/unload from street parking spots 3. Bench seats, no way! 4. I assume (hope) they will have stability control and side air bags etc. We may be driving smaller but I don't want to give up on safety especially since the other big things on the highway won't vanish overnight. Good luck to them when the 'Americanize' it for the US market. Competition is always good but they will have to do more changes to compete against the established Scion/Honda models.
#8 of 23 Gold Rush Mica Release Edition 5.0 by xbgoldrush Apr 13, 2008 (1:39 pm)
I just purchased a Gold Rush and am awaiting delivery. I'm not thrilled in the color but like the factory sunroof. Has anyone else purchased a release edition? The 4.0 is my favorite. Replies to this message: so_cali (Jun 12, 2008 11:34 pm)
#9 of 23 Re: Gold Rush Mica Release Edition 5.0 [xbgoldrush] by so_cali Jun 12, 2008 (11:34 pm)
Replying to: xbgoldrush (Apr 13, 2008 1:39 pm) Toyota has blown it with the sunroof on the second edition. The gold is way too loud and obnoxious and to drive home the point, they added fugly trim of the same color inside. If only they would wise up and offer the sunroof in all the xBs, then I'd have a blackberry crush one in my driveway.
#10 of 23 Glad to see The Cube by marinerfh Jun 16, 2008 (1:43 pm)
I was going to buy a Scion xB, then Scion made the major mistake of totally changing the car into a gas guzzler. The original xB had already become a classic and phenom, much like the original VW Beattle in the 1950's. The new xB is an ugly monster than drinks too much gasoline. Toyota made the mistake of listening to the people who didn't buy the car while ignoring those who did. The Cube actually came first in Japan and was copied by Toyota with the xB. The cube will have a practical bench seat, better visibility, a bit more power and better gas mileage than the original xB. The Cube is also very practical for seniors who will find it easier to get in and out of than a standard car. I can't wait to buy one, but I will. Nissan will have my deposit as soon as they start taking orders. I was reluctantly going to buy a Honda Fit, until my son told me about the Cube. I am sold already. Note, the Cube that will be sold in America will have the 1,7 ltr Versa engine rather than the 1.4 ltr engine in the article. Replies to this message: anderlan (Jul 04, 2008 11:18 am)
#11 of 23 Re: Glad to see The Cube [marinerfh] by anderlan Jul 04, 2008 (11:18 am)
Replying to: marinerfh (Jun 16, 2008 1:43 pm) I cannot agree more. See my rave about the old, rant about the new, here at gnuber.com. The xB went from being a bold experiment in the space-efficient/hull-weight-efficient cube concept, with an engine-to-size ratio which can only be describe as prescient in todays $4/gallon world, to being yet another car that looks like a squished SUV, with terrible visibility and an engine too big for its size!!! At the very least in 2010 they should give the option for the 1.8L Corolla engine in the xB. They should also make it taller again, and cut some of the weight, but I'm not holding my breath. To me, all they needed to do originally to the old one was make the front less weird/more aerodynamic, and maybe increase the engine to the 1.8L, but only if it wouldn't hurt MPG.
#12 of 23 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Nissan Cube vs. 2008 Scion xB [texases] by anderlan Jul 05, 2008 (6:05 am)
Replying to: texases (Feb 22, 2008 7:00 pm) thefoth: 'adequate mpgs'? Dude, if you're willing to go with 22/29MPG, why didn't you get a RAV4? With a RAV4, you can go off-road. There's no other car you can go off-road with that gets that MPG. The CRV comes close. The Element is close, but it doesn't go off-road quite as well (but its BIGGER---there's the cube thing again). Anyway, as you can see, I determine what I want to do with a car, then I find the one that does that with the most MPG and reliability. I was looking for a wagon I could take my small family travelling in, off-road not absolutely required. I was considering Fit and Matrix, with the old xB in last place because of looks, I must admit. But when I was forced into it, I discovered the old xB was the biggest of the 3 with MPG better than the Matrix. I'm just disappointed. The xB is NOT the xB anymore. More space, less gas, hi-visibility ergo-car turned into less space, more gas, normal visibility squashed SUV. Replies to this message: alamocity (Aug 22, 2008 5:12 pm)
#13 of 23 APPLES TO ORANGES by sn58411 Aug 21, 2008 (11:37 am)
I WORK FOR NISSAN AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE CUBE THEY IMPORT HERE WILL INCLUDW LOTS OF SAFTEY. THE 2007 VERSA WAS RATED ONE OF THE SAFEST SUB-COMPACTS. THE CVT TRANI SHOULD AD MORE FUEL ECONOMY AND THE JAP SPEC CUBE IS RATED AT 41 MILES PER GALLON WHEN DRIVEN THE WAY IT WAS MADE TO BW Replies to this message: ahsanman99 (Nov 30, 2008 8:15 am) arumage (Nov 30, 2008 5:35 pm)