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Sedans Honda Civic 2008 Honda Civic Problems and Repairs
232 messages, Last post on Oct 10, 2009 at 3:48 AM
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Replying to: apachedoc (Oct 28, 2008 4:27 am) |
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Re: Purring noise etc. I agree that the fuel pump could be the creator of the noise (purring) but would suggest that fuel pressure should remain in the system (assuming all is in working order) and therefore you can start the car immediately. The pump shouldn't need to cycle and any pump activity is only to produce maximum pressure to the system as per the regulator. The injectors don't require full system pressure to release fuel into the system so the car will start fine...immediately. Keep in mind that ambient temps. between evening and early morning can be fairly drastic (where I live) and temps. have an effect on pressure and this may be causing the purring you refer to as the pump cycles (although it should be really hard to hear if it's working correctly). As for the electronics, the system is almost instantaneous (milliseconds) and therefore there is no need to wait to start. Yes, your 1988 would have had an EFI system as well although less efficient than what is in the market today. Just my opinion guys. Cheers |
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So, I have had several concerns with my new 2009 civic: When I go to start it from a cold start, it wont turn over. The only way to get it to start it to leave it cranking for several seconds. My gas milage is not so hot. I only get 22-24 mpg (most of my milage is highway). This is very disappointing since I was getting 18-22 mpg with my 2007 Mazda CX-7 AWD SUV and turned it in soely because I wanted something with better gaas milage. I miss my AWD. Winters in Ohio suck. My gas gauge is wacked. I'll have four little blocks on my gas gauge and in about 20 miles I will have none. I can go 10 miles from the time my light goes on to having no blocks. Is this normal? I am used to being able to drive for a bit with my light on. The radio is staticy at times and sounds like I'm listening to it through a tin can. When I brake sometimes the ABS goes off for a second. Eventhough I'm on dry pavement and do not appear to be slipping. I contacted my dealership. I asked about the gas problems. The dealership said was normal. The fuel milage they blamed on it only having 3300 miles and said it hasn't been broken in yet and it will get better. She said the not turning over is probably because of my fuel (I have used a wide variety of brands of fuel without any change) and that it was nothing to worry about. I didn't even bring up the other problems because I figured I would just be blown off with some excuse. Anyone else experience any of this? |
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Replying to: Liz4891 (Dec 15, 2008 3:44 pm) Do you have an option for Honda dealerships where you are? I'm so sick of the dealers just brushing off the problems that consumers encounter instead of spending the time to investigate and repair. The fuel mileage is not right. My '08 Civic gets close to 40 mpg and has since day one. Tell the dealer to "re-flash" the ECU, and I mean the shop foreman and/or service manager, not the service writer that obviously doesn't have a clue. The hard starting is also abnormal and it may be addressed with the advice above. If not, tell the dealer to check the fuel pump pressure and volume although they should be doing that given the symptoms. Your car should start instantly, with almost no cranking and cranking as you describe. All of your electrical problems (radio feedback and poor sound, your gas guage etc.) might be related but the dealer needs to address them. The ABS is likely urrelated to the radio and the fuel guage but they had better address it since it is potentially a safety issue. Borrow a loaner car (preferably a 2009 Accord demo) and don't give the keys back until you are completely satisfied. Tell the dealer that if all items aren't addressed this time with a reasonable explanation, that you will escalate your concerns to Honda USA. Infact, maybe do that first if you think that the dealer is going to waste your time again. Perhaps they would like to contact me so that I can assist with the repairs???? I can't believe it and hope that anyone else that views this is equally as frustrated...and it's not even my car....my '78 civic was a much better car that my '08 so I'm using your problems as a bit of a sounding board....sheeesh!!! Good luck and let me know the outcome. Paul 
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Replying to: kmaker (Dec 15, 2008 5:18 pm)
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Replying to: Liz4891 (Dec 18, 2008 8:58 pm) With those types of problems, you should go to other dealers until you find one that will service you well. The service department gets paid from Honda for factory warranty repairs, and some dealers will be happy to hustle for the cash no matter where you bought the car. I'd do this instead of complaining to your first dealership. Might as well find a dealer that actually believes in service, then complain so that somone handles your problems begrudgingly. The gas gauge is ridiculous. 20 miles left when on 4 blocks---something is out of calibration. I can get all the way down to zero blocks before it runs out of gas. |
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Replying to: Liz4891 (Dec 15, 2008 3:44 pm) I am disappointed also. My 06 got about 45 mpg on highway and 32-33 locally My 09 (with now 8000 miles) get 40 mpg highway and 29-30 locally. This is my major complaint and I plan to take it to the dealer I bought it from this week. I plan to talk to the dealer about some of the comments posted by another person in response to the same question I am responding. I was disappointed that the hood did not have any sound insulation on the 09 but don't know how much it would affect the noise level. However, FYI, I learned on my 06 that I should replace the tires with the same as the OEM tires (Bridgestone) or lose MPG. I changed to a Yokohama tire and my mpg immediatedly went down about 10%. Six thousand miles later, my tire dealer removed the Yokohama tires and replaced them with the new OEM tires. My mileage immediately went back up 10%. Ernest1934 |
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Hi Liz, Good luck to you at the dealership. Regarding the tires and the difference in mileage, likely the OEM tires had a higher inflation pressure than the others??...and by the way, there is absolutely no need to stick with the OEM brand in order to get the best mileage....anyway, I have to go to the dealership and see if my 08 Civic is ready. Cheers, Paul |
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