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Sedans Honda Civic 2008 Honda Civic Problems and Repairs
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Replying to: rspedinp (Oct 21, 2008 3:55 pm) Wow, pretty sad really. Re: the "purring noise" when trying to start it...never heard of it. Sorry, can't help but it's a little strange that with both cars you've experienced the same thing. Just so I understand, did Honda indicate that you weren't allowed to complain about the new car? It needs to go back to the dealer. Good luck!
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Replying to: kmaker (Oct 22, 2008 9:34 am) |
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Replying to: rspedinp (Oct 21, 2008 3:55 pm) To explain better.."When you turn on your computer," you just can't just go right in a click on the internet and go? OK, it is the same with the computer in the car. Every vehicle I have owned since 1980 (that has had a computer in it) I will put the key in the ignition, turn it to the accessory or run position wait 1001, 1002, 1003.... then start the car. You are doing 2 things when taking the time to start the car. 1. The fuel pump needs time to charge the fuel system. (when you turn the key on listen for a whiring or buzzing for a second or two.) If you don't understand then have a friend or relitive sit in the driver seat. With the door closed key off (best in the moring when the engine is cold) open the gas cap and listen for the fuel pump when they turn the key on you should hear the pump spin up and stop 2-4 seconds. If you don't have this extra helper and you can't hear with the door closed and windows up....... OK, OK roll down the window, if you still can't hear the pump, window down and gas cap open.... Still can't hear it... (your Deaf like me and....... Oh, crap I just about told you how old I am.......) I hope you get the jest...... 2. The COMPUTER>>>> when you turn the key on to the run possition, (This is the one with the funny little pictures on the dash that light up.) The battery is now powering the electrical system. This is a good time to make sure the lights are working ( on the dash) and if done every morning (afternoon / evening for you Day Sleepers) After a few seconds the bell might stop doing that annoying ding....and a couple of those lights might turn off. NOW you are giving the computer a chance to power up and talk to the engine and say " Ready to Start!" for those of you who think I am Crazy I was just using that as a medifor (OK, I can't spell either!) I hope this enlightens everyone who reads it. If anyone has a question...(There are no Stupid Questions, just not all answers make everyone Happy...) E-mail me at Apachedoc  aim.com. Oh,yea that purring noise, because turning the car on too fast this might be the Evaportvie Emmissions System (EVAP) doing its' bleed thing to keep raw gasoline vapers escaping into the air and doing icky to the enviornment....
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Replying to: apachedoc (Oct 28, 2008 4:27 am) |
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Re: Purring noise etc. I agree that the fuel pump could be the creator of the noise (purring) but would suggest that fuel pressure should remain in the system (assuming all is in working order) and therefore you can start the car immediately. The pump shouldn't need to cycle and any pump activity is only to produce maximum pressure to the system as per the regulator. The injectors don't require full system pressure to release fuel into the system so the car will start fine...immediately. Keep in mind that ambient temps. between evening and early morning can be fairly drastic (where I live) and temps. have an effect on pressure and this may be causing the purring you refer to as the pump cycles (although it should be really hard to hear if it's working correctly). As for the electronics, the system is almost instantaneous (milliseconds) and therefore there is no need to wait to start. Yes, your 1988 would have had an EFI system as well although less efficient than what is in the market today. Just my opinion guys. Cheers |
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So, I have had several concerns with my new 2009 civic: When I go to start it from a cold start, it wont turn over. The only way to get it to start it to leave it cranking for several seconds. My gas milage is not so hot. I only get 22-24 mpg (most of my milage is highway). This is very disappointing since I was getting 18-22 mpg with my 2007 Mazda CX-7 AWD SUV and turned it in soely because I wanted something with better gaas milage. I miss my AWD. Winters in Ohio suck. My gas gauge is wacked. I'll have four little blocks on my gas gauge and in about 20 miles I will have none. I can go 10 miles from the time my light goes on to having no blocks. Is this normal? I am used to being able to drive for a bit with my light on. The radio is staticy at times and sounds like I'm listening to it through a tin can. When I brake sometimes the ABS goes off for a second. Eventhough I'm on dry pavement and do not appear to be slipping. I contacted my dealership. I asked about the gas problems. The dealership said was normal. The fuel milage they blamed on it only having 3300 miles and said it hasn't been broken in yet and it will get better. She said the not turning over is probably because of my fuel (I have used a wide variety of brands of fuel without any change) and that it was nothing to worry about. I didn't even bring up the other problems because I figured I would just be blown off with some excuse. Anyone else experience any of this? |
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Replying to: Liz4891 (Dec 15, 2008 3:44 pm) Do you have an option for Honda dealerships where you are? I'm so sick of the dealers just brushing off the problems that consumers encounter instead of spending the time to investigate and repair. The fuel mileage is not right. My '08 Civic gets close to 40 mpg and has since day one. Tell the dealer to "re-flash" the ECU, and I mean the shop foreman and/or service manager, not the service writer that obviously doesn't have a clue. The hard starting is also abnormal and it may be addressed with the advice above. If not, tell the dealer to check the fuel pump pressure and volume although they should be doing that given the symptoms. Your car should start instantly, with almost no cranking and cranking as you describe. All of your electrical problems (radio feedback and poor sound, your gas guage etc.) might be related but the dealer needs to address them. The ABS is likely urrelated to the radio and the fuel guage but they had better address it since it is potentially a safety issue. Borrow a loaner car (preferably a 2009 Accord demo) and don't give the keys back until you are completely satisfied. Tell the dealer that if all items aren't addressed this time with a reasonable explanation, that you will escalate your concerns to Honda USA. Infact, maybe do that first if you think that the dealer is going to waste your time again. Perhaps they would like to contact me so that I can assist with the repairs???? I can't believe it and hope that anyone else that views this is equally as frustrated...and it's not even my car....my '78 civic was a much better car that my '08 so I'm using your problems as a bit of a sounding board....sheeesh!!! Good luck and let me know the outcome. Paul 
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Replying to: kmaker (Dec 15, 2008 5:18 pm)
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