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Re: Getting a 2009 Azera for well under invoice [budh] by njalan
Sep 22, 2008 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: budh (Sep 19, 2008 11:09 pm)

"Is it realistic to get a price near $26,000 or possibly even lower?"
 
The answer is YES, budh, as proved by my own shopping experience earlier today. I have been absent from the Sonata/Azera forum for 2 months now, mainly because I wanted to convince my wife to take a test drive with the 2009 Azera Limited. Prior to going to Towne Hyundai (North NJ) I had a telephone conversation with the salesman who confirmed the following terms:
$2300 off the invoice price
Add registration and processing fee about $450
Add 7% NJ sales tax
Less $1000 rebate
 
When my wife and I got there (70 miles one way) we were given the deal as promised over the telephone. We did not buy the car right on the spot not because of price dispute but because the bad test driving experience.
 
I let my wife test drive the car because I know this car is good from this forum. However, the car (having only 10 miles and arrived just last Saturday afternoon) suddenly failed to go despite my wife depressed the gas pedal to the floor. This almost caused the car behind hitting our car because the slow down was so sudden. Fortunately she managed to drive back to the dealership with the help of the salesman on the passenger seat. The salesman repeatedly said sorry, saying this was the first such incident in his 19 years as salesman with the last 18 years as the nation's top Hyundai salesman. We were offered another Azera to test drive but my wife declined, saying she was scared to death. There was one other Azera Limited with navigation and blue tooth but in black color and my wife does not like the color.
 
The salesman wanted badly to sell us an Azera requesting us to wait for a couple of minutes so that their mechanic could find out what's wrong with the new car. We stayed and stayed until we were so hungry that we had to go to the nearby diner to a late lunch (after 3 p.m.). By the time we finished lunch and were ready to leave the diner there was no call from the salesman. So, I called him as a courtesy before going home. He said he just found out the GROUNDED WIRE (???) on the car was bad and needed to be replaced, and it had to be ordered.
 
So, that was our shopping experience on the 2009 Azera. To add salt on the wound, the waitress in the diner asked what were we doing and we said car shopping. "Looking for a Honda?", she asked. I said, "Hyundai". She said: "I drive an Acura TL. Don't buy this cheap car." My wife concurred with a big smile. Did anybody out there have the same/similar experience with a brand new Azera before? I still wanted to buy a 2009 Azera if somehow I can convince my wife this was an isolated incident. But she did give me an earful on the long way home. I need your help urgently to save my badly bruised ego.
 
This was a beautiful 2009 Azera Limited in beige color with the following items:
National base price ($28920)
Navigation ($3000)
Blue Tooth ($325)
Carpet ($100)
Destination ($725)
For a total MSRP of $33070
 
We could have this car for just a little bit over $30,000 OTD, a saving of more than $5,000 over the MSRP. But it was not to be. What a shame!
#69 of 140
Re: Getting a 2009 Azera for well under invoice [njalan] by 101649
Sep 23, 2008 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: njalan (Sep 22, 2008 6:59 pm)

Waitress must be getting some great tips......
#70 of 140
Re: Azera vs. TL reliability [njalan] by tonycd
Sep 23, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: njalan (Sep 22, 2008 6:59 pm)

Per Consumer Reports, the reliability records of the Azera and the TL are very similar: both slightly above average. Also, the TL has reportedly had an ongoing problem (like its Accord cousin) with a chorus of rattles and squeaks, a problem that doesn't seem to have affected the Azera.
 
Not that it'll help you now, but it appears you just were spectacularly unlucky.
#71 of 140
'09 Azera test drive by allmet33
Sep 23, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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I currently own an '06 Azera w/Premium Package. After hearing all the complaints about the suspension issues from folks with later '06 models, '07's and '08's...I wanted to see if they corrected the problems with the '09.
 
Now I can't speak in terms of down the road some 5K miles, but the intial ride is significantly different from that of my '06 (which never has had any of the suspension issues folks have mentioned). I drove over pot holes and man hole covers to see what type of feedback came through the steering wheel and it was quite different. It's not bad in my car, but it's much more dampened in the '09. At highway speed, I yanked the steering wheel left and right to make the body roll and it seemed to be better controlled compared to my '06 as well.
 
Basically, to sum it up...the '09 seems to have more poise over uneven surfaces and body roll is more controlled compared to the '06 I own. I can't speak how it compares to later models as I've never driven an '07 or '08.
 
Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Azera vs. TL reliability [tonycd] by njalan
Sep 23, 2008 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: tonycd (Sep 23, 2008 10:08 am)

I take comfort in knowing that the reliability index of both the Azera and the Acura TL is similar if not identical, and that even a good car like the Acura TL has its own share of problems. Although I never owned a TL, my ownership experience with 3 Acura RL's (currently still own a 2002 RL) can attest that Acura cars are good.
 
Does anybody know the problem of a bad GROUNDED WIRE on a new Azera? Is it a serious problem? According to the salesman any new car could have any kind of mechanical problem at any time, and as long as the car was under warranty we had nothing to worry about. Is this a genuine statement or just a sales push? However, he did concede yesterday's car failure during the test drive never happened before him during his 19 years as Hyundai salesman.
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Re: Azera vs. TL reliability [njalan] by allmet33
Sep 23, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: njalan (Sep 23, 2008 1:55 pm)

Does anybody know the problem of a bad GROUNDED WIRE on a new Azera?
 
Haven't heard of this popping up, but it is true any type of failure can happen at any given time. Being told it's covered by warranty isn't a sales pitch...it's the truth. My '06 Azera is 2.5 years old with 57K miles on it and I just had my e-brake cable replaced (snapped) and my passenger seat cushion replaced (faulty airbag sensors)...all under warranty. During the replacement of the seat, the tech scratched my center console, so guess what else is being replaced??? After seeing the ticket and looking at the price of that one part ($292), I'm so happy I've got the warranty!!!!
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Electrical issue: connecting GPS and radar detector by budh
Sep 30, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Typically when I buy a new car, I have a radar detector wired directly to one of the fuses in the nearby fuse box. But does the Azera even have a fuse box in the driver area or are all fuses in the engine compartment?
 
If so, how do I tell which wire will be powered from the positive battery terminal only when the ignition is ON?
 
Also, will a standard GPS fit into the compartment directly above the ashtray? (Two common dimensions for a Garmin GPS are 3.87” x 2.91” x 0.87” and 4.9" x 3.1" x .7".) Where is a good location for keeping your portable GPS?
 
Bud H
#76 of 140
Re: Electrical issue: connecting GPS and radar detector [budh] by allmet33
Sep 30, 2008 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: budh (Sep 30, 2008 8:31 am)

Budh...the fuse box is located on the side of the dash. If you open the driver side front door, there's a panel on the side of the dash. You'll see an opening that you can slide a couple fingers in and pull the panel off.
 
Once you see the fuses, they are labled pretty good. Just figure out which components work when the ignition is ON (windows, radio, headlights, seat heaters...).
 
A great location for keeping it is in the lower corner of the windshield on the driver's side so you can hide your wires. Of course you've got the more obvious location in the middle of the windshield, but then you'll have wires hanging all in the way.
#77 of 140
Re: Electrical issue: connecting GPS and radar detector [allmet33] by budh
Oct 02, 2008 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 30, 2008 9:02 am)

Thanks for the information!
 
Could you give me a few specifics on how you kept the wire out of sight and how and where specifically you connected in for power to your GPS?
 
Bud H

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