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#151 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [allmet33]
Feb 21, 2010 (1:32 pm)
Hyundai , in my opinion, doesnt have a clue of what there doing. Im now living in the
interior of Canada...the salesman at the Hyundai dealership said that the Sonata 4 cyclinder will not sell in this area due to the small motor. The Azera ,which I own, is
being discontinued in Canada as of 2009 .Now the Equus in the States to sell for
$75000.00..again nuts! Who would buy aHyundai for that price. Not I. Also being said that a smaller Genesis might be in the offering????????????
This company is becoming another GM...throw as many cars out there an hope someone buys one.....................et at Detroit a 2012 Azera...go fiqure!
#152 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [alymac]
Feb 21, 2010 (2:56 pm)
2.4L is the same size 4 in the outgoing Sonata and the current CR-V & Accord. It's 0.1L smaller than the Forester & Camry I4s but 0.1L larger than Mazda.
I suggest going to a dealer where the sales staff have a clue or don't have an agenda.
#153 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [allmet33]
Feb 22, 2010 (3:57 am)
I read yesterday that a V6 and/or a turbo 4 could come at a later date. IMO, a modern turbo 4 with DI could produce an easy 250 HP - the turbo 4 in the Chevy HHR is a 2.0 liter with 260HP.
#154 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [alymac]
Feb 22, 2010 (10:27 am)
All due respect, pricing the Equus at $75k or even close would price them out of the market they are hoping to take a bite out of. The Lexus LS460, which the Equus is taking direct aim at, starts out around the low-mid $60K's. My thinking is with the Genesis topping out around $40K, the Equus would probably start in the upper $40K's, fully loaded...top out around $60K.
2011 Equus Review
Now...the initial Equus is going to have a tweaked version of the 4.6 V-8 that's in the Genesis. Word has it that Hyundai is cooking up a 5.0 V-8 (pushing over 400 hp) to go in in a high-line version (long wheel base) of the Equus at a later date:
Equus LWB with 5.0 V-8
Even if Hyundai's taking the GM approach, at least they are producing cars the folks WANT to own because of the value and now...they are looking really, really nice!!!
#155 of 166 Sounds Like A Good Strategy
Feb 25, 2010 (1:12 am)
If the rumors are true about positioning their models and brands upmarket are true, keeping the Sonata to a 4 cylinder and Azera to a 6 cylinder makes absolute sense. They could offer the Sonata and Azera in both basic and limited trims, make the Genesis their 8 cylinder car (again in both basic and limited trims), and then the Equus would be their ultra-luxury and big-engine offering.
Hyundai definitely has a huge opportunity with Toyota in the hot seat; don't think they won't take advantage of it. Hyundai is doing something right considering they are the only car maker that didn't take an actual decline in sales here in the US in the worst of the recession. Plus, as an owner of 3 Hyundais so far, my 2008 Azera is the best thing I've ever driven. My senior dad (though still working as a CFO in retirement from Gov't) is going to get a Genesis in November after his 3rd in last 10 years Cadillac lease expires because he loves my Azera so much and was gaga over the Genesis when we test drove one while waiting for routine oil change and tire rotation on my Azera a few months ago. Mom is on board also.
If my Dad is ready to throw Cadillac under the bus, even with the sweet deals they are already offering him to get another one, what does this say about their image nowadays? WOW!
#156 of 166 what a civilized forum!
Mar 03, 2010 (8:45 pm)
I read a lot in car forums and do not believe that any such forum has shown the civility and friendliness that permeates this forum. I am recently attracted by the Azera. Perhaps the car attracts pragmatic, straightforward types. Whatever the reason, my compliments to the posters and host.
#157 of 166 Re: what a civilized forum! [pod]
Mar 04, 2010 (8:09 am)
Pod...welcome to the forum. The Azera is a nice car that has had a few issues. There are some issues shared by many and a few that are not. However, as Hyundai puts it on their website...the Azera is their best kept secret. Don't know why they would do it that way, but hey...it's nice to have a car that not everyone is driving out there.
#158 of 166 2009,2010, 2011 Azera questions
Mar 04, 2010 (10:26 am)
Okay, let me dip my toe into this forum. As I understand the 2010 Azera has only slight changes over the 2009 model but a "redesigned" 2011 Azera with substantial changes is due to be available later this year. I suspect the 2010 model or even a 2009 model will suit my needs quite well. I am coming off a 2000 Mercury Sable which has been a great car with few surprises at 140,000 miles and ten years of ownership. The new Taurus (Sable is dead) is quite a change over prior models but is large and heavy (4100 pounds plus) and has two annoying features: (1) poor rear visibility due to high waistline design and headrest interference, and (2) a massive flowing center console which accomplishes little of value (except the arguable aesthetic) which actually crimps the right foot territory and right hip territory because it expands as it approaches the driver. I want a comfortable, quiet, reliable car with a trunk large enough to fit golf bags and pushcart and with reasonable fuel economy. Hyundai, and the Azera in particular (although I am tempted by the new 2011 Sonata), has attracted my attention. I would appreciate it if Azera owners would comment specifically on the NHV overall and the tradeoffs of significance if I were to go with the GLS rather than the Limited. Also is there still an "ultimate package" with the limited anymore or is all that contained in the 2010 Limited?
#159 of 166 Re: 2009,2010, 2011 Azera questions [pod]
Mar 04, 2010 (1:02 pm)
Right now there are plenty of good deals out there on the 09-10 Azera. I would only look for the Limited without the Nav package. I like the bigger engine, power mirrors, rear sunshade and the telescopic steering wheel. The ultimate package is called the premium package. If you can wait for the 2011 and want to pay top dollar, do it. Myself I look for the used ones with 5-7K on the speedo, usually come from the rental or leased lot. This is what I got and 10K cheaper than a new one.
#160 of 166 Re: 2009,2010, 2011 Azera questions [pod]
Mar 04, 2010 (1:50 pm)
Pod...I think you'll be more than happy with the Azera. If you opt to wait on the '11 Sonata, you won't be able to get a V-6 engine (if that's a concern for you). I'm sure you'll be able to catch a sweet deal on an '09 or possibly a '10 model with the '11's not too far away. I've had mine ('06) just over 4 years now, got just over 80K miles on it and love it still. I've never experienced the suspension issues that some have posted about, the only malady I've suffered is the air bag light issue.
I live in the DC Metro area and have driven to FL, NY, GA, OH & NC and every trip has been a wonderful ride. Don't take my word for it, go take a test drive in one and see what you think. Good luck with your choice.