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#147 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [ratledge]
Feb 13, 2010 (1:07 pm)
SWEET!!! Maybe I was wrong about them not continuing the Azera in 2011!!!
#149 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [allmet33]
Feb 14, 2010 (2:29 am)
With the new Sonata offering 4 cylinder only ( up to about 200HP ), it looks as if those desiring V6 power in FWD have only one option from Hyundai - the Azera.
#150 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [cobrazera]
Feb 18, 2010 (2:30 pm)
Wow...I wasn't aware that the Sonata wouldn't be offering a V-6 any more. That's pretty crazy considering it's the direct competition against the Camry & Accord. I guess that's their way of justifying keeping the Azera (which I'm not mad about at all).
#151 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [allmet33]
Feb 21, 2010 (12:32 pm)
Hyundai , in my opinion, doesnt have a clue of what there doing. Im now living in the
interior of Canada...the salesman at the Hyundai dealership said that the Sonata 4 cyclinder will not sell in this area due to the small motor. The Azera ,which I own, is
being discontinued in Canada as of 2009 .Now the Equus in the States to sell for
$75000.00..again nuts! Who would buy aHyundai for that price. Not I. Also being said that a smaller Genesis might be in the offering????????????
This company is becoming another GM...throw as many cars out there an hope someone buys one.....................et at Detroit a 2012 Azera...go fiqure!
#152 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [alymac]
Feb 21, 2010 (1:56 pm)
2.4L is the same size 4 in the outgoing Sonata and the current CR-V & Accord. It's 0.1L smaller than the Forester & Camry I4s but 0.1L larger than Mazda.
I suggest going to a dealer where the sales staff have a clue or don't have an agenda.
#153 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [allmet33]
Feb 22, 2010 (2:57 am)
I read yesterday that a V6 and/or a turbo 4 could come at a later date. IMO, a modern turbo 4 with DI could produce an easy 250 HP - the turbo 4 in the Chevy HHR is a 2.0 liter with 260HP.
#154 of 166 Re: 2011 Azera shown at Detroit Auto Show [alymac]
Feb 22, 2010 (9:27 am)
All due respect, pricing the Equus at $75k or even close would price them out of the market they are hoping to take a bite out of. The Lexus LS460, which the Equus is taking direct aim at, starts out around the low-mid $60K's. My thinking is with the Genesis topping out around $40K, the Equus would probably start in the upper $40K's, fully loaded...top out around $60K.
2011 Equus Review
Now...the initial Equus is going to have a tweaked version of the 4.6 V-8 that's in the Genesis. Word has it that Hyundai is cooking up a 5.0 V-8 (pushing over 400 hp) to go in in a high-line version (long wheel base) of the Equus at a later date:
Equus LWB with 5.0 V-8
Even if Hyundai's taking the GM approach, at least they are producing cars the folks WANT to own because of the value and now...they are looking really, really nice!!!
#155 of 166 Sounds Like A Good Strategy
Feb 25, 2010 (12:12 am)
If the rumors are true about positioning their models and brands upmarket are true, keeping the Sonata to a 4 cylinder and Azera to a 6 cylinder makes absolute sense. They could offer the Sonata and Azera in both basic and limited trims, make the Genesis their 8 cylinder car (again in both basic and limited trims), and then the Equus would be their ultra-luxury and big-engine offering.
Hyundai definitely has a huge opportunity with Toyota in the hot seat; don't think they won't take advantage of it. Hyundai is doing something right considering they are the only car maker that didn't take an actual decline in sales here in the US in the worst of the recession. Plus, as an owner of 3 Hyundais so far, my 2008 Azera is the best thing I've ever driven. My senior dad (though still working as a CFO in retirement from Gov't) is going to get a Genesis in November after his 3rd in last 10 years Cadillac lease expires because he loves my Azera so much and was gaga over the Genesis when we test drove one while waiting for routine oil change and tire rotation on my Azera a few months ago. Mom is on board also.
If my Dad is ready to throw Cadillac under the bus, even with the sweet deals they are already offering him to get another one, what does this say about their image nowadays? WOW!
#156 of 166 what a civilized forum!
Mar 03, 2010 (7:45 pm)
I read a lot in car forums and do not believe that any such forum has shown the civility and friendliness that permeates this forum. I am recently attracted by the Azera. Perhaps the car attracts pragmatic, straightforward types. Whatever the reason, my compliments to the posters and host.