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Ford Fiesta, Hatchback, Sedan
Nov 28, 2009 (9:10 am)
Edmunds now shows MSRP of $15,200:
That listing also indicates it is a 5 speed automatic, so perhaps the manual would start about $1000 less? Elsewhere they specify 17 inch alloys, power windows, locks, and mirrors, steering wheel audio controls. So it appears to be a well equipped model (by my standards). This listing also indicates it is a 4 door hatchback.
I'm guessing this is equipped comparably to maybe a Focus SE, which has MSRP about $3000 higher.
#92 of 650 Re: MSRP $15K? [jeffyscott]
Nov 28, 2009 (9:33 am)
A 5 speed automatic would be a bonus I was not expecting. Particularly at $15,200!
#93 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [hpmctorque]
Nov 28, 2009 (10:37 am)
"What other car in its class has independent rear suspension?"
All I know is that I got my '07 Focus ST w/ a fat-torque 2.3 Mazda-developed Duratec engine for under $16k out-the-door in California.
Yes, cars in its class should be compact enough to evade the old tax in Japan for cars wider than 170cm (5'7"). & both my '07 Focus ST & '99 BMW 328is qualify!
Today, If you want compact exterior w/ multi-links, & $ is no object, then there's the Mini Cooper, but it rides far from plush
Yes, even the new VW Polo failed miserably in steering feel & ride/handling when compare to the Fiesta (According to TopGear magazine).
See AutoExpress comparison:
#94 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [creakid1]
Nov 28, 2009 (10:44 am)
To me if the ride is described as "plush", that'd be a negative, as I'd assume it meant floaty with vague handling...I'd be thinking Camry-esque, which would not appeal to me.
#95 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [jeffyscott]
Nov 28, 2009 (10:52 am)
Have you driven an early base RX-8 w/ std 16" rims? It glides so well over bumps w/ such plush & silky ride unbelievable for a car that handles like a track racer
Another amazing thing about it is its electric pwr steering that's actually more confident inspiring than my Focus ST's hydraulic pwr steering.
I wonder why Ford didn't bother using this platform to build a RWD sedan to embarrass BMW's?
#96 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [creakid1]
Nov 28, 2009 (11:29 am)
I did test drive a 2007 RX-8, don't recall what wheels it had, but I am am pretty sure that they were larger than 16 inches. The ride did seem fine to me, not overly stiff or anything like that. I don't that that I'd call it plush, but I do remember thinking that it was surprisingly smooth, far smoother than I had expected, given the great handling and low profile tires.
I also enjoyed the fantastic handling of the RX-8, when I drove one several times at "Zoom-Zoom Live" a few years ago, I believe that was in 2006.
#97 of 650 Fiesta Handling
Nov 28, 2009 (2:56 pm)
C/D said this about the Fiesta;
"....the Fiesta one-ups the Fit in any winding-road run. And a German-built version we tested here in Ann Arbor handled the worst of Michigan’s potholed roads with isolated solidity that bests some luxury cars."
"...Ford of Europe’s engineering chief, says that the dynamics of the U.S. and European cars will be the same, a change from previous policy. If so, American drivers are in for a treat because this new Fiesta is probably the best-handling and most driver-friendly of all the world’s microcars."
#98 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [jeffyscott]
Nov 28, 2009 (3:15 pm)
The early base RX-8 w/ 16" rims also got softer springs & sway bars. I believe that dark blue one in L.A.'s 2004 MazdaRevItUp test drive event came w/ this softer suspension set up even though it had 18" rims.
Unfortunately the base model was not available w/ traction/stability control, & I fishtailed it about 180 degrees while stepping on the throttle hard making a right turn in the wet (on purpose). I would get the sport model w/ stability control, then replace w/ the non-sport springs/sway-bars/rims.
If the Fiesta handled the worst of Michigan’s potholed roads with isolated solidity that bests some luxury cars, then the RX-8 w/ the softer set up can do the same in BOTH ride & handling to BOTH luxury cars & Porsche's
#99 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [creakid1]
Nov 28, 2009 (6:18 pm)
According to testing, the RX-8 also is .1 second slower in acceleration, handling, and just about every other test than a base Cayman. 99% as good for half the money is quite a feat. Now, is it a Cayman S or even a BMW 3 series? Of course not. But like the Subaru WRX, it gives a lot of performance for not a lot of money.
My only gripe is that they need to put that setup in the Mazda 6.
#100 of 650 Re: I have driven one months ago [creakid1]
Nov 28, 2009 (8:09 pm)
"... even the Polo failed miserably in steering feel & ride/handling when compare to the Fiesta"
That's disappointing, since it seems that VW will offer the Polo in the U.S. Also, VW knows how to do steering feel and ride/handling because the Golf does very well in these areas.
This is probably a dumb question, since they compete in different segments and one is RWD while the other is FWD, but since you own a 3-Series and a Focus, how would you compare their steering feel and ride/handling?