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21 messages, Last post on Dec 09, 2008 at 1:50 PM
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Replying to: lpatterson30 (Feb 19, 2008 6:20 am) |
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A couple years ago I was given a Sharper Image Ionizer ( I forgot the exact name). Looking forward to the experience of clean fresh air, I turned it on in my living room. Within minutes, what I experienced was an asthma attack. ie, my bronchial tubes tightened and I felt a shortness of breath. The machine is now sitting in my shed. I'm shopping for a new car and discovered that the Camry I was getting ready to buy has this ionizing contraption. I spoke to one of the mechanics at the dealership in Virginia and he told me that it could not be disabled. I had hoped to buy a hybrid Camry or even a Prius and am very disappointed. I'm looking at what Honda has to offer. So, Ms. Patterson, you're not alone. I'd be curious if and how you resolved this issue. I don't log on here much, but feel free to contact me regarding the outcome. I plan on contacting Toyota myself. Best of luck. mrsatori  yahoo.com
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Replying to: scorpioman (Mar 07, 2008 4:40 pm) |
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As far as the electric motor, it is in front of the engine and under the hood. This is what's known as a Farraday shield. Why a car is the safest place in lightning is because it is steel and is a Farraday shield. As far as the cables from the batteries under the rear seat to the electric motor, the cables are conducting current to and from the motor.. It is an electric circuit. The current is flowing from the positive battery terminal and returning to the negative terminal. That means that EMF induced by the positive is cancelled by the EMF induced by the negative currents. The EMF's are self cancelling Most measurements will measure the earth's magnetic field. which varies from 300 to 600 milli- Gauss. EMF's are not detectable by smell. The Plasmacluster filter has 3 levels of filters which filter successively smaller particles. It is called a micron filter. The last stage adds negative ions to counteract the accumulating positive ions. I looked in the fuses in the owners manual. There is not a specific fuse for the filter or it would be simple to disable I look at positive ions as havining on OH ion Strong bases have positive ions A negative ion could be viewed as having a H ion. Strong acids have Hydrogen ions If you look at the reaction between an OH and H you get HOH or H2O. I find it difficult to explain the symptoms you are experiencing. They come and go in severity, so it is hard to pinpoint. I have not had my heater blow any air while off. I have it set on auto with my temp set at 68. My wife has her side set at 72. Nothing happens when heat is called for until the engine has warmed up enough for heat. So even when my heater is "on"" it may delay blowing any air. The plastic components emit gases as they age. It may be that is what you are smelling as a metallic taste. I have had vehicles that looked like someone had smoked cigarettes in them as dirty as the inside windows got from plastic out- gassing. Clean your inside windows and look at the paper towels and see if they don't show up as some what dirty from the plastic out gases that collect on them .
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Replying to: pat85 (May 19, 2008 10:44 am) When we first got our 2007 tch I noticed a faint unpleasant odor. Over time I have associated it with moisture in the AC. I started garaging it with the windows open and ran it at 80 deg til it warmed up as advised in someone elses post. I had the cabin air filter changed because of the odor a month ago, no help. Yesterday it began smelling like chemicals when the ac compressor runs. I now leave the compressor off for fear of having a bad heat exchanger. Has anyone had similar problems . Is there a tsb out on it?
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Replying to: mrpat (Oct 11, 2008 9:18 pm) |
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In your response to emf concerns I have three problems. First, the Faraday cage does not apply to magnetic fields which are the concern. Second, the primary and return wires must be bound together as in residential wiring to achieve cancellation. In cars the return is usually through the car body and there isn't a return wire. Thirdly, the health concerns are with time varying magnetic fields and not static fields like the earth's. Typical equipment blocks out he static fields to only provide time varying or ac magnetic field data.
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Replying to: concerned9 (Nov 11, 2008 9:56 pm) It did make me sick. I am no longer experiencing the symptoms I had. This was my personal experience. I did not come here with an agenda. No further answers to my post are necessary. Thanks to all who offered me assistance. For those who answer with argument against concerns of my post, you are wasting your time. I did not post this to "flame" those who staunchly believe in hybrids. I solved my very real issue. The End. |
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First. on some 12 volt starter batteries, the car body is connected to one of the terminals. Usually the negative terminal, but I once had an MG with a positive ground. That is not true of the hybrid batteries. Each terminal,is connected to the electric motor (and charging circuitry.) Although they are not intertwined like house wiring which is 220 volts center tap and which are no longer intertwined in fuze boxes, junction boxes and wire pull boxes. The hybrid battery wires are physically close enough to cancel EMF's. look at how close he contacts are on the motor. In any case the Emf's basically cancel. As for the induced magnetic fields they are described in Maxwell's Equations. Firrst, there are no magnetic dipoles. The Delta operator times the B vector field is zero. There are magnetic field generated by a wire carrying current, Each wire induces a magnetic field according to,the right- hand-rule. If the thumb is pointed in the direction of the current, the magnetic field lines will be in the direction of the curled fingers. If you do that for both wires from the hybrid battery, current is going in opposite directions, so the magnetic fields cancel.
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Replying to: pat85 (Dec 09, 2008 1:01 pm) |
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