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SUVs Mitsubishi Outlander Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
793 messages, Last post on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM
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I have an '07 outlander that has multiple rock chips on the bottom half of both back passenger doors. According to the district manager in the warranty deparment this is not a defect in the paint so it's my issue. I agree that it is not a defect with the paint, I believe that it is a defect in the design of the vehicle. If you notice that the bottom black piece that is suppose to deflect the rocks away from a vehicle is in the same line as the vehicle you would understand that it isn't going to push them away but actually hit the doors. They suggest mud guards but even that will not stop rocks from hitting the back doors, what should I do?
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:24 am) It looks like Clark W Griswold drove it off the lot, and even he didn't want it. |
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Replying to: swirl_junkie (Apr 15, 2008 10:29 am) The front half of these two vehicles actually look a lot alike, something chelentano has pointed out more than once. I'm not a fan of the wide D-pillar on the Outlander, but not because of the styling, it's more of an issue of rear 3/4th visibility. The Forester has very narrow pillars and the rear windows is set very low so you can see just about everything. Mitsu offers a backup camera and I recommend that feature. Any how, styling on both of these is attractive, IMO. |
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Replying to: tracyo1 (Apr 15, 2008 9:43 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:24 am) A: Towing for one. lots of 4 cylinders are limited to 1000 to 1500 lbs. The V6 outie tows 3500 lbs. I personally don't feel the V6 outie is as slow as it's being made out to be. As someone else said "drive em". I did drive the other vehicles I was interested in ('08 Subaru was all that was offered at the time so I didn't bother looking at them last fall as the wagon was too small for me) I did drive A Hyundai Santa Fe (and found it very nice, but felt the Outie was more gas economical for me and cost less). I also love the Rockford Fosgate sound system and flip down tailgate. I also love the steering. There are compromises, but it fit my needs nicely with great value. The specs from delaers and magazines are only a starting point. A test drive tells a lot more.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:24 am) My point is the better 4 cylinder (normally aspirated) competitors can match that and are a lot more economical with fuel. Why get a V6 if it's not a significantly better performer? In fact, I wonder if Mitsubishi's own 2.4l with the CVT is as quick as their V6 model. For reference, the last 2 Foresters they tested took 6.2 and 6.6 seconds, a whole other league. Not to interfere with the little "war" here, but I wouldn't go by the numbers posted by the Motorweek. I read/watch their reviews but for whatever reasons they post higher test numbers for ALL the cars, in all performance tests. At the most, you could use the numbers to compare other vehicles tested by them. Motorweek tested the 2006 Forester XT, which without doubt, posts better numbers than the Outlander and most of the V6 CUVs on the road. Does this mean much? If I were to buy a turbo vehicle, I would buy a car - WRX, Mazdaspeed3, STi, Evo, etc. I don't really see the point for a mainstream turbo SUV. It will handle like an SUV regardless so the straight-line acceleration it's just a waist of time. I would be curious thought to see some numbers for the naturally aspired 2009 Forester. This would be relevant indeed. However, from what I've seen so far, all the I4 CUVs are in the same ballpark 9-10 sec. with the Rogue being the quickest. The Outlander I4 is also up there with the CRV, RAV4 I4 and Rogue for fuel economy so it's not a lesser vehicle by comparison. I'm sure the 2009 Forester will join them too. The Outlander V6 posts 8.1-8.3 sec. in any other car magazine test, which is about right and normal for its power output and size/weight (at least in my opinion); it doesn’t feel underpowered or sluggish by any means. On the other hand, the naturally aspired 3.0L H6 Subaru engine (same displacement as the Outlander’s V6), with 250 hp and 5-speed auto in the last gen Tribeca, posted a whooping 9.7 sec. to 60 mph (Motorweek called it "reasonable" LOL). This is truly in the I4 territory so not quite an accomplishment for Subaru. For what it's worth, the Outlander V6 however is faster to 60mph than any naturally aspired I4 CUV without a question enve though that's by a second or so,
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I thought I would be able to stay away from this thread... Ack! Oh well...  In my humble opinion, the 0-60 time is only a small piece of the performance story. The job of an engine and transmission is to appropriately propel the vehicle in a given circumstance. The flexibility of an engine (i.e. availability of torque over the rev band) is a rather important aspect of overall performance. I haven't test-drive the 09 Forester and it's been just over a year since I drove the Outlander, so I can't really comment. I will regurgitate what I posted earlier. These are both fantastic vehicles, if you are in the market. Do yourself a favor and go test-drive both of them. 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:24 am) Wrong, I attended the new Forester at Chicago auto show. >> How much does your Chase Freedom card earn you? 1%? I get 3%. I win. Freedom card pays back 3% cash back on 3 top shopping categories and 1% on other categories. So what I do, I have two Freedom cards: Visa and Master Card and I use them for 3 different categories of purchases. So I get about 2.5% back in CASH, not in some subaru points. And Freedom has larger $600 a year cap, vs. Subaru’s $500 a year cap. I get slightly smaller percentage but more rebate cap and most importantly I have freedom. By choosing cash I am not married to one manufacturer and I have freedom to spend my money any way I want, including a car purchase. Some Subaru bux do not enslave me: this time I can buy Outlander - next time i can try another brand. I win.
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Replying to: swirl_junkie (Apr 15, 2008 10:29 am)
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Replying to: h2k2f2 (Apr 15, 2008 5:54 am) It's interesting to me that you haven't replied to my question and comment. Why is that? Come on, it's time for an answer from you.
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